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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2017, 04:19:59 am »
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He brought up Sweden now, and the eyes are on us. This is what ive been hoping for, maybe finally something will happen here. We've got the liberal propaganda machine too https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/688999781193117696

i feel like half the population of sweden wants to stand up and say something but they're too afraid due to retards labeling them hate speech enthusiasts
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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2017, 05:25:15 am »
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Liberals now attack Milo, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osFtCcpFrXI&user=yiannopoulosm&ab_channel=MiloYiannopoulos. Very cute, edit videos to take things out of context and make light of him having been abused as a child. At the same time they post articles saying pedophilia shouldnt be hated https://archive.is/9KZY9, but of course, take it down because it doesnt fit their narrative anymore when they want to attack someone. http://www.salon.com/2017/02/20/breitbart-editor-milo-yiannopoulos-under-fire-after-comments-reportedly-condoning-sex-with-minors/


Oh and the #LastNightInSweden is pretty funny now, since there are riots in Rinkeby (afaik a no-go zone for the police, and only immigrants live there), didnt take long for shit to go down here to justify Trumps statements. http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/polis-skot-varningsskott-mot-stenkastare/
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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2017, 09:08:45 am »
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Du utför guds arbete, Gravoth. Upplys plebejerna.
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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2017, 04:13:18 pm »
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I feel like I blinked and internet definitions changed again.

Is 'liberal' still a descriptor for particular sensibilities/the dictionary definition of being 'open to new ideas' (opposite to dictionary definition of 'conservative', adverse to change, holds traditional values), or is it just someone that doesn't like Trump now? Like those Republicans that denounced Trump during his campaign, damn liberals.

Don't like Trump---->Liberal?
Liberal sensibilities---->Don't like Trump?

Conservatives all like Trump?
I guess so, otherwise they'd be 'liberal' under this new definition.

Well, yeah i guess they keep changing since people will often just pull out the most radical or offensive right or left wing word to describe the other part.
It seems that most people just simply identify them as progressive liberals, and then the other side are the conservatives. I guess you can still dislike Trump as a conservative without being called a liberal, but i dont think a liberal can like Trump and still be liberal. They would get cast out. I guess it would be better to say the left/extreme left/progressive(regressive) left, but to me it sounds a bit harsh also considering the party in Sweden called the "Leftist party" is very close to communistic. Conservatives are all called Fascist Authoritarian Dictatorship chocolate chip cookie right wings etc, it all loses its meaning so might as well just call them conservatives.
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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2017, 04:18:58 pm »
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Liberals = so called new age socialists = basically privileged white people combined with those who milk the system because they are too lazy to work. Best thing to describe them all would be extremely hypocritical. They won't help you in need but will bore you to death with long speeches how someone should help you.

On the other side of spectrum you have conservatives, nationalists, straight up nazis, racists; all bundled together by liberals.

Both sides try to polarize the world, divide it in two schools of opinion as much they can. Because that makes things easy for both of them.

You agree with something Trump did and do not think he actually did anything wrong as a president so far? Then you must be straight up nazi in disguise hiding under clothes of conservatism.

You do not believe that all brown skinned people are human garbage and in general do not think that skin colour should define a person? You must be liberal.

You find it annoying how gay lobbies around the world are working for their cause and think they put too much emphasis on one's sexuality for their own selfish reasons while treating other minority groups the same way they don't want to be threated (disabled people, blind people, mentally challenged people). Then you must be nazi again and probably weirdo, becuz sexuality is important. Some Austrian said it 100 years ago, it must be true.

By the way, I think Milo Whatever his name is massive prick. Lazy asshole who couldn't find useful job. But it seems people think that if you disagree with certain practices of one side, then you must like Milo. Hell no, I'd made him clean the toilets if it were up to me. Fucking college dropout, good for nothing uneducated douchebag.

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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2017, 04:30:08 pm »
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I like Milo, i find him very entertaining, and he provides great arguments.

I also enjoy the fact that he is a gay jew that prefers to sleep with black men, but is still being called a chocolate chip cookie https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/status/833863025434251264
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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2017, 05:41:30 pm »
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That's what I don't understand lol, when did 'liberal' become the most offensive word to describe the other part?

It just feels like so much effort to both try and make it an ugly word, and brand all Trump haters with it at the same time. Wouldn't it be easier just to use a word that was already insulting?

I guess it's just my distance from American politics, historically always more polarised (feels like we've caught up though) and 'liberal' has a more political 'left-leaning' connotations, probably seen as an insult to Republicans. Over here the 'Liberal Democrats' party were always trying and often failing to be the 3rd party alternative to left-leaning and right-leaning, so politically I don't see the word as an 'anti-right' insult. Over here, unless you lived on the internet 'liberal' always meant the political party or the dictionary meaning - being open to new shit/relaxed (eg. "My parents are quite liberal, you can stay over"). The difficulty I guess in having political parties named after ideologies, that people later try to redefine to mean something totally different - just like the extremely 'Conservative' (party-wise) county I live in that voted 70% against Brexit and still largely consider Trump to be a lunatic, what a liberal Conservative place I live in.

"I guess you can still dislike Trump as a conservative without being called a liberal"
I'll have to disagree with that. I think a conservative can dislike Trump (see inner-party conflicts), but I don't believe you can dislike Trump without being called a liberal. Well... only in certain corners of the internet, as above I live in a very anti-Trump place. For anyone else who's entire 'real life' of family, friends, work still sees Trump-baddie as a forgone conclusion, the difference you observe between 'real world' and 'internet world' makes the debate hard to engage with seriously.

As for liberals being fans of Trump, someone who's actually the genuine definition of liberal (not just someone who identifies as one, or is labelled as one for convenience) is someone that's open to new ideas. Semantically, whether or not a true liberal should be naturally pro-Trump or anti-Trump comes down to whether you believe he counts as 'new' or 'old' in his approach. I think he's something new, but I'm not a fan.

I dont see liberal as an offensive word, thats why i use it. But to me calling them leftists or far left etc is offensive so i choose to just use liberal.
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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2017, 05:51:35 pm »
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I call them dirty sickle sucking communists as that is the term I have found they respond best with.

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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2017, 06:44:11 pm »
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Liberal used in this sense is colloquialism. Just like people use some scientific term in common speech where it means something completely different. Nitpicking about it often proves to be complete waste of time, blud.

Anyway, back to evil that is Donald Trump. There was anti Trump protest in London. Why?

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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2017, 06:47:34 pm »
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Half the population?

Take a leaf out of 2016's book, that's more than enough to decide important matters for the entirety of the population.

ye nah, we had election in 2014, far different climate and opinions in these 2.5 years. According to polls, his numbers are pretty spot on.

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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2017, 07:44:07 pm »
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Sweden Democrats has at least risen to 20%, maybe even more. Which would double their % compared to 2014. By the next election they will probably soak up a majority. With Peter Springare coming out and admitting that people should not go out alone during the nights because of the risks, Trump calling us out followed by riots, general increases in crime and "feminist" government looking like fools going to Iran and subjecting themselves to their opression by covering themselves with hijabs or whatever theyre called. It wont hold for ever, no matter how hard people try to stop Swedish Democrats from holding meeting (hotel stopped them from being able use their locale here in my town, protestors have been banging windows and starting fire alarms in other locations theyve tried to hold meetings in etc) they will still only rise, maybe even faster due to it.

edit: Oh yeah, and the liberals want bulletproof vests to be banned now because they encourage violence somehow. Some guy in Malmö wore one and survived a gun encounter due to it, and somehow people want it to be illegal.
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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2017, 09:00:51 pm »
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There'll be a new coalition including the Moderate party and the christian democrats with the Sweden Democrats leading it with atleast 55% of the votes, I believe.

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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2017, 09:04:59 pm »
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Sweden Democrats has at least risen to 20%, maybe even more. Which would double their % compared to 2014. By the next election they will probably soak up a majority. With Peter Springare coming out and admitting that people should not go out alone during the nights because of the risks, Trump calling us out followed by riots, general increases in crime and "feminist" government looking like fools going to Iran and subjecting themselves to their opression by covering themselves with hijabs or whatever theyre called. It wont hold for ever, no matter how hard people try to stop Swedish Democrats from holding meeting (hotel stopped them from being able use their locale here in my town, protestors have been banging windows and starting fire alarms in other locations theyve tried to hold meetings in etc) they will still only rise, maybe even faster due to it.

edit: Oh yeah, and the liberals want bulletproof vests to be banned now because they encourage violence somehow. Some guy in Malmö wore one and survived a gun encounter due to it, and somehow people want it to be illegal.

   There seems to be no responsibility at all in politics in Sweden or Europe in general for what is going on. It's a respectable notion to help people that need it, but flat out lying to the public about the extremity of the situation is unfair and dangerous. These migrants and refugees come from countries where you get your hand chopped off for stealing, women get stoned and beaten to death for minor marital disputes and gang rape is acceptable, because a lone women out at night is either assumed to be a prostitute or inviting sex. Their cultural values do not coincide with western values at all and it will take generations, not years for them to adapt, if it all.

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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2017, 09:24:39 pm »
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Re: Madman is doing it
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2017, 09:31:19 pm »
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I was on a forum and asked a Swede "So how is Swedistan doing?", and they replied "Oh it's good, we had a pride parade yesterday and it was only disturbed by a white drunk male" ... ... ... ...
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