Turkey coup d'etat

[Leshma]

he is gonna get more powers no doubt. all more reason to hate the coup. morons made everything even worse! about 'murica, nay no need to worry. we have no oil

edit: if the coup was succeeded, there would be no erdogan yes, but instead we would have fetullah gulens minions ruling the whole country. secretly seizing the army, police, justice system etc. brutus and his friends thought killing ceasar would be the end of the tyranny, but later on octavian , a bigger dictator than ceasar, finished off the republic. see the similiarity?

If coup was real, that makes him dictator. Because uprisings don't happen to nice people, targets are always dictators.

In case coup was staged, then it was Erdogan using fake coup to fortify his power. To make himself into even stronger dictator.

In both cases, coup happened because Erdogan is dictator.

[Tibes]

edit: if the coup was succeeded, there would be no erdogan yes, but instead we would have fetullah gulens minions ruling the whole country. secretly seizing the army, police, justice system etc. brutus and his friends thought killing ceasar would be the end of the tyranny, but later on octavian , a bigger dictator than ceasar, finished off the republic. see the similiarity?[/b]

I dont think I find the logic "lets leave this insane guy who clearly wants to burn our country to the ground alone, because coups are bad", very sound. Sounds like a loss of faith or fear.

[DaRkSouL12394]

you were right about one thing oberyn, im very unislamic alright. im an atheist actually and i dont support erdoğan. not even a bit. yet it doesnt mean i should support an illegal military coup. especially a coup that organised by fetullah the coon. now fuck off.

[DaRkSouL12394]

Military dictatorship? Doesn't Turkey have a long history of the power being given back to the people after a coup?

its not a dictatorship like saddam or qaddafi, army does the coup, get rid of the legitimate goverment, settle things up ( jail anyone that oppose the coup, mostly civilians ) , act like their job is done, and that they give the power back to people, until they dont like a goverment that doesnt lick their boots, they do coup again. this is how it was in Turkey in 20th century. and thats definitely not how democrasy works. and its not giving the power back to the people

[Tibes]

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especially a coup that organised by fetullah the coon. now fuck off. [/b]

wat? Do you actually believe that horseshit? 

[Oberyn]

What do you think of Atatturk? Do you realize the only reason your country isn't a backwards shithole islamic theocracy is because of the army? If the many coups were about the government not licking the army's boots, why would they ever give back power to the politicians? How fucking deluded are you that you think Erdogan and his cronies and the masses of AKP retards care about "democracy" and "the people"? Seriously kill yourself, you are too dumb to live.

[Yeldur]

what da hell people? i dont like erdogan either but supporting a fucking military coup? are you all insane? how can you forget what they did to people in previous successful military coupes in Turkey. thats not how the damned democrasy works, you cant ask for military to take over the country when your party doesnt get elected. and whole this coup thing just proved that erdogan is a legimite chosen president. people fucking fought against tanks for him with their bare hands. 160 people died. more than 4000 people injured. its not something you can see everyday. besides, this wasnt a coup, it was a fucking terrorist attack. our own soldiers , jets, helicopters shooting our own people, police, and the fucking parliament building. and there is no doubt that it was all planned not by secularist soldiers, but minions of fetullah gülen, a cleric, an islamic coon and a tool of cia.

your logic is severely flawed

[DaRkSouL12394]

wat? Do you actually believe that horseshit? 

i do. you people dont have any idea how strong that guy is. he is fucking protected by cia. he is rich af. his property in pennsylvania is protected by police and noone is allowed to get close. he got thousands of supporters here. ask any guy from turkey and he will tell you about him and his minions called ''cemaat''. infact, it was fetullah who helped erdogan gain power. they were best buddies until 2013. usa still refuse to give him to turkey even though its very bad for the relationship between turkey and usa. why?

[Oberyn]

wat? Do you actually believe that horseshit? 

Yes, it's Erdogan's political enemy Gulen that orchestrated the coup, because the government was not licking the army's boots. Two completely separate things, but he conflated them with nary an inkling of cognitive dissonance, because he's a stupid cunt. What that means exactly, who knows. I suppose being an insane megalomaniacal Sultan wannabe dictator = not licking the army's boots.

[Oberyn]

i do. you people dont have any idea how strong that guy is. he is fucking protected by cia. he is rich af. his property in pennsylvania is protected by police and noone is allowed to get close. he got thousands of supporters here. ask any guy from turkey and he will tell you about him and his minions called ''cemaat''. infact, it was fetullah who helped erdogan gain power. they were best buddies until 2013. usa still refuse to give him to turkey even though its very bad for the relationship between turkey and usa. why?

Yes, Turkey is the first country every in the history of the world that has had an exiled politician in another country and they refuse to extradite him. It's probably because evil american crusaders want to take down glorious Sultan Erdogan and weaken Turkey. GJ, you fucking moron.

[DaRkSouL12394]

What do you think of Atatturk? Do you realize the only reason your country isn't a backwards shithole islamic theocracy is because of the army? If the many coups were about the government not licking the army's boots, why would they ever give back power to the politicians? How fucking deluded are you that you think Erdogan and his cronies and the masses of AKP retards care about "democracy" and "the people"? Seriously kill yourself, you are too dumb to live.

Yes, Turkey is the first country every in the history of the world that has had an exiled politician in another country and they refuse to extradite him.

its not giving the power back to politicians if army try to take over the country whenever they want! how fucking retarded are you? fetullah gulen is not a politician. he is a cleric and the leader of an islamic group called ''cemaat''. get your facts straight. and it was the secularist army that exiled him...

[Oberyn]

By 2013 Erdogan had already purged the army and put his islamic cronies in charge. And he is Erdogan's political enemy, religion and politics is literally the same thing in Turkey and has been for a while. How are you so fucking ignorant about your own country? Again, you must be pretty fucking stupid if you think the many military coups were about the army doing "whatever they want" and not about safeguarding Attaturk's vision. The only reason your country isn't a shitty islamic theocracy is because of Attaturk and the army, it is literally their most important role. Seeing Erdogan and his brainwashed AKP lapdogs praise Attaturk even as they shit all over his legacy and everything he built is so fucking ironic. Nothing stoping the will of "the people" (the right ones at least) now though, they'll get exactly what they want.

[Thomek]

its not giving the power back to politicians if army try to take over the country whenever they want! how fucking retarded are you? fetullah gulen is not a politician. he is a cleric and the leader of an islamic group called ''cemaat''. get your facts straight. and it was the secularist army that exiled him...

Gulen is the perfect enemy. A guy running secret networks around the country. Anyone can be a Gulenist! If I was a dictator, I would so nourish such an idea. Gives perfect excuse to arrest anyone.

Don't buy this bullshit.

Coup was either likely staged, or "allowed" by Erdogan. Perfect way to trap his enemies in the army. It only takes 1 rat to destroy the whole plan, and he was most likely warned. Still, if he hadn't been able to reach the population and tell them to go into the streets, it might have turned out much different. At the least it would have been much longer and bloodier.

[Oberyn]

Gulen is the perfect enemy. A guy running secret networks around the country. Anyone can be a Gulenist! If I was a dictator, I would so nourish such an idea. Gives perfect excuse to arrest anyone.

Don't buy this bullshit.

Coup was either likely staged, or "allowed" by Erdogan. Perfect way to trap his enemies in the army. It only takes 1 rat to destroy the whole plan, and he was most likely warned. Still, if he hadn't been able to reach the population and tell them to go into the streets, it might have turned out much different. At the least it would have been much longer and bloodier.

But but Emmanuel Goldstein!!

[DaRkSouL12394]

By 2013 Erdogan had already purged the army and put his islamic cronies in charge. And he is Erdogan's political enemy, religion and politics is literally the same thing in Turkey and has been for a while. How are you so fucking ignorant about your own country? Again, you must be pretty fucking stupid if you think the many military coups were about the army doing "whatever they want" and not safeguarding Attaturk's vision. The only reason your country isn't a shitty islamic theocracy is because of Attaturk and the army, it is literally their most important role. Seeing Erdogan and his brainwashed AKP lapdogs praise Attaturk even as they shit all over his legacy and everything he built is so fucking ironic. Nothing stoping the will of "the people" (the right ones at least) now though, they'll get exactly what they want.

erdogan purged the army from secular generals that were erdogans enemies, erdogan and fetullah were still buddies at the time, so no doubt that fetullah had his people amongst the the new generals that replaced with the jailed secular ones. back then before the purge, army would never ever let fetullahs men sneak into army. fetullah was and always very strong among the police force. after the war broke out between fethullah and erdogan, he cleansed the police from his people (which took years) and it was the time to clean the army from his men, there was another purge incoming in august. fetullahs men were either going to be jailed or forcefully retired. thus they planned and organised this premature coup. Ataturk was a good man and a leader. but i dont think this is how he imagined. army taking over anytime they want, generals become untouchable gods.  surely they were doing those coups for ataturk but not for their lust for power.