LIVE YOUR MYTH IN FRANCE.

[Grytviken]

Stupid Künast, that twitter was so fucking stupid only hours after the incident before anything knew anything is widely condemned by everyone. She played right-wings and nationalist right in the cards with that comment.

Yea I don't know what she was thinking, especially after finding stuff like this https://pamelageller.com/2016/06/war-grade-arsenal-of-weapons-confiscated-at-mosque-in-germany.html/   I'm sure if she had her way the police would be disarmed too.

[Leshma]

You can't be seriously denying that the War on terror, as in Iraq Invasion and follow up missions, is a serious factor that contributed to the current situation. Same as Gulf Wars, Pahlavi, sykes pikot, creation of Israels, etc. It all matters.
Many people who currently say: "Stay the fuck away from those countries, we only will make matters worse like in the past, peace is the only solution" have a similar longing for a simple solution like those of you that are suggesting things like banning all muslim, nuking them, etc. It just isn't as simple as that, either way.

They are not the only ones who were oppressed by west.

[Grytviken]

They are not the only ones who were oppressed by west.

They oppress themselves with their stone age religion. These countries can't do anything without religion mixed into politics, even the Shia in Iraq who are fighting ISIS are basically mobs of Islamic Zealots who think they are doing gods work.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-usa-idUSKCN0ZX0XL

If you ever wondered why the Iraqi Army has a hard time defeating ISIS even though Western nations have invested billions of dollars into them look no further. They have these mobs of Islamist zealots following them around who don't think the Iraqi Army is religious enough for them, they want to fight for allah instead. These monkeys will stop fighting in the middle of combat to start praying.

[The_Bloody_Nine]

Who are you referring to when you say "you" here? No one since your last post fully qualifies to be the subject of this quoted text based upon the content of any of the recent posts.

mh? Not sure if i understand you correctly. The quoted text was just direct speech out of my head to describe an opinion nobody here really represents.  I used "you" only in context with people demanding a ban on Islam or similar. idk if after my last post but there were several people in this thread suggesting something along the line, not?

[Tydeus]

idk if after my last post but there were several people in this thread suggesting something along the line, not?

Along the line? I just skimmed through all the previous pages to make sure, and maybe I missed one post, but no, not really. There were several calls to limit or stop further immigration, not to kick them out. I actually saw multiple instances of people explicitly saying they were not talking about retroactively kicking immigrants/muslims out.

Control who comes into our countries, only take in people who seem worthwhile (standard procedure in the past and still currently the policy in sane societies such as the Australian) and only in numbers that they can be assimilated and to get the number of immigrants down proportionally (below 10% of the population, preferably 5%), and combat actively the spread of fundamentalist ideas.

I never mentioned deporting all Muslims but I sure as shit wouldn't want more coming knowing the facts that more Islam = more terrorism, it's just a fact and you are in denial if you think otherwise.

Also look at who is +'ing which posts, specifically Angantyr's post in this case.

[Grytviken]

Also look at who is +'ing which posts, specifically Angantyr's post in this case.

They even refuse to deport ISIS fighters who return to Europe. They should be deporting troublemakers, there should be a zero tolerance policy especially when you look at what's at stake. I don't believe all Muslims are bad, but when there's no way to tell who's going to go on a killing spree I don't think it's fair to let any in for the time being. Instead of changing a broken system they will just do nothing, at least Agryntyr 's ideas are a step in the right direction.

I'd not only agree with Trump that a temporary ban on Muslims immigrating to the US is a good idea until the current system is revamped, the only way to do this the PC way would be to just ban all Europeans, I don't want any Germans with a nice tan exploding in a neighborhood here anyway, and maybe this would pressure Europe into not going full retard in their ideology at the same time.

[Leshma]

You should vote Shillary. Trump is just populist talk to get into presidential seat. Doubt he'll do any of things he says he'll do. Businessman first, that is old Donald.

Shillary, she's the evil one. Would gladly nuke the whole country if necessary. It is hilarious that liberal left look at her like savior of mankind. Well it will help them with their issues, by doing the dirty work while they protest and draw heart breaking pictures on building walls.

[Grytviken]

You should vote Shillary. Trump is just populist talk to get into presidential seat. Doubt he'll do any of things he says he'll do. Businessman first, that is old Donald.

Shillary, she's the evil one. Would gladly nuke the whole country if necessary. It is hilarious that liberal left look at her like savior of mankind. Well it will help them with their issues, by doing the dirty work while they protest and draw heart breaking pictures on building walls.

Trump wants the US to disband NATO and improve relations will Russia, seems like a good idea to me even though there are alot of right wing politicians here who will cry endlessly about it. Europeans are becoming a liability, they are far too gone and their far left trash ideology is spreading over here. I used to think Putin was evil cus media is biased here, especially CNN who hopefully we will find out in the wiki leaks aided Islamists in Turkey stage a fake coup with Erdotard. There's 35 million illegals living  in the US, we obviously need a wall too. There's more people living in the United States illegally then there are people living in all of Scandinavia and these liberals don't think it's a problem.

[Tydeus]

You should vote Shillary. Trump is just populist talk to get into presidential seat. Doubt he'll do any of things he says he'll do. Businessman first, that is old Donald.

Shillary, she's the evil one. Would gladly nuke the whole country if necessary. It is hilarious that liberal left look at her like savior of mankind. Well it will help them with their issues, by doing the dirty work while they protest and draw heart breaking pictures on building walls.

It's just a disgrace that those are our fucking options. Going back to what Thomek was saying about the rest of the world hating the US.

No fucking wonder.

Trump wants the US to disband NATO and improve relations will Russia, seems like a good idea to me. Europeans are becoming a liability, they are far too gone and their far left trash ideology is spreading over here. I used to think Putin was evil cus media is biased here, especially CNN who hopefully we will find out in the wiki leaks aided Islamists in Turkey stage a fake coup with Erdotard.

Does he though? Do we actually know what trump wants to really do? He changes his mind hourly. Says anything to get media attention, which they gladly do. Instead, he has called for multiple plans that would either be catastrophic if introduced, or could only be done by cutting serious funding in things we really need (education, transportation, health care, NASA, public safety, etc).

It's so hard to actually know what he would really be like. The only thing he has shown is a lack of knowledge, which isn't something you want in a president. Shillary is at least knowledgeable, unfortunately she's been rather lacking on the general topic of this thread.

[Grytviken]

It's just a disgrace that those are our fucking options. Going back to what Thomek was saying about the rest of the world hating the US.

No fucking wonder.
Does he though? Do we actually know what trump wants to really do? He changes his mind hourly. Says anything to get media attention, which they gladly do. Instead, he has called for multiple plans that would either be catastrophic if introduced, or could only be done by cutting serious funding in things we really need (education, transportation, health care, NASA, public safety, etc).

It's so hard to actually know what we would really be like. The only thing he has shown is a lack of knowledge, which isn't something you want in a president. Shillary is at least knowledgeable, unfortunately she's been rather lacking on the general topic of this thread.

The debates and everything leading up to the elections are all just for show, they both will say whatever they want to get elected. However I believe Trump when he says he wants improved relations and closer ties with Russia, it's the only logical way to put an end to alot of problems going on.

[Falka]

Grytvitken, you're scientologist for fuck's sake, your opinion ain't worth shit.

[Leshma]

Grytvitken, you're scientologist for fuck's sake, your opinion ain't worth shit.

Tom Cruise for president!

Going back to what Thomek was saying about the rest of the world hating the US.

No fucking wonder.

When I was ten years younger and part of a different gaming community, one 15 year (American) kid asked the question. Why world hates United States?

Thing is, world don't hate United States. It is worse than that. Full blown hatred on United States would imply jealousy. Most Americans I had pleasure to chat with have pretty much same opinion, how outsiders are jealous of American success and hate America because of it.

Rest of the world don't think that America is the best country in the world and generally dislike it because USA tend to have their fingers in things that shouldn't concern them. No one likes police, not even Americans. Naturally, rest of the world don't like world policeman aka USA.

Best thing about USA, for me personally, are prices of tech. Rest, I can live without it.

[Lt_Anders]

Tom Cruise for president!

When I was ten years younger and part of a different gaming community, one 15 year (American) kid asked the question. Why world hates United States?

Thing is, world don't hate United States. It is worse than that. Full blown hatred on United States would imply jealousy. Most Americans I had pleasure to chat with have pretty much same opinion, how outsiders are jealous of American success and hate America because of it.

Rest of the world don't think that America is the best country in the world and generally dislike it because USA tend to have their fingers in things that shouldn't concern them. No one likes police, not even Americans. Naturally, rest of the world don't like world policeman aka USA.

Best thing about USA, for me personally, are prices of tech. Rest, I can live without it.

Funny enough, the US is the generally voted as the "I want to live there most" country. Someone posted the stats on the forums, and I can't be assed to review it(So, we could just ignore this.)

It's so Isolated here from the problems of Europe, Africa, Asia. Since so much of NA and SA is based on the same general culture of Christian/Western Europe, there's far less instability from severe culture clash.

[Thomek]

Best thing about USA, for me personally, are prices of tech. Rest, I can live without it.

No you can't. Name me your 10 top favorite bands honestly. Top 10 movies. Top 10 Tv shows. Top 10 games.

Don't name them, just think about it and where they come from. Why can't for example france and germany compete culturally? Who do most of their movies suck? Any good german bands recently? Name me 10? Or maybe some chinese literature?

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Of course there are examples of great stuff from above countries, it simply doesn't have the impact that the US stuff has.

The US is by far the leader in the world culturally, economically, militarily. Something in their society makes people create good shit that the rest of the world wants. Not having been there myself, I'm extremely interested in what it is exactly, since others report it as the land of the fat people, white trash, corruption, gang crime, racism and the stupid. There's more to it than that. I'm 100% theres something positive too, something that makes at least some people perform better than they do in the rest of the world.

This is such a gigantic euro hypocrisy. We bash them while watching their TV shows, listen to their music and watch their porn, on computers and devices designed by them. 

Idk, I understand the US bashing, it's the easiest way to explain stuff and keep your head sorted. The olde european arrogance is always a fallback position that I used to subscribe to as well, we are after all born with it! Anyway, now, I try to see it as best as I can from a distance. I try to accept there are many paradoxes about it, that it's yuuge and complex. Good things, bad things, mad things.

[Xant]

As social organization goes beyond the level of the hunter-gatherer band—to the tribe, the city-state, the nation-state—religious organization on an ever larger scale is feasible. So sages take the opportunity to expand their power—which means preaching a commensurately broad tolerance. Thus, appeals for brotherly love are comparable to a politician’s self-serving appeals to patriotism. In fact, appeals to patriotism are, in a way, appeals for brotherly love on a national scale.