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The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« on: May 04, 2016, 02:14:31 am »
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Four more years of Obama.

The Donald was declared winner of the Indiana Primary. Trump now needs under 200 delegates to win the Republican nomination on the first ballot.

rip GOP
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 03:08:45 am »
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Four more years of Obama.

The Donald was declared winner of the Indiana Primary. Trump now needs under 200 delegates to win the Republican nomination on the first ballot.

rip GOP

Pray he stomps Hilary in the same way...

I hope he gets in office because he's the only presidential candidate in years who is talking about shaking things up regardless of the corporate media or opinions of other groomed politicians and those that control him. We already know what a Hilary presidency will be like... A trump presidency will be a grab bag of entertainment at the very least, and we'll probably get a sweet wall out of it!

Ted Cruz never would have beaten hilary and I fucking despise the way he talks.  :lol:
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 03:09:44 am »
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RIP TED CRUZ CANDIDACY
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 09:14:27 am »
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016, 09:30:22 am »
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016, 12:26:53 pm »
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YOU CAN'T STUMP THE TRUMP!
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2016, 05:33:54 pm »
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Trump is the living embodiment of the American dream.

A testament to the fact that man needs neither intelligence nor any sort of marketable skill in order to rise to the top.

Trump has marketable skills some of them are:
-Sensationalistic reality TV personality
-Unsophisticated and uncultivated bullying speech
-Visionary attitude with no regard for internal consistency

These traits would make him unelectable as a political leader in Sweden(Western Europe?)

However...
If you look behind these traits you can fill in the unknown with whatever ideas you want(another reason he would be unelectable in Sweden)
I would say that there's actually a chance that he is a capable business manager.

The Hillary vs Trump thing boils down to this for me:

Hillary:
More of the same which means:
UMNCC(United Multi National Corporation Court) that doesn't care about soverignity
More Imported future debtors to satisfy economic calculus to sustain exponential financial growth(aka. more bs arguments about humanitarian duty to migrants)
Paying lip service to naive/extremist leftist aka. "vocal fringe"of antiracist, anti sexist groups which will only embolden them(Listening to the problems and acknowledging the whining is not the same as doing something about the systemic problems)

Trump:
Nuking the middle east, killing ISIS families, deporting Mexicans because rapists etc. all because MAGA(luckily he doesn't seem to piggy back on irrational supernatural doctrines except for some moderate faith in "The invisible hand of the market")
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"Let's make deals with the ones that we can make deals with, and no deals with those that refuse to negotiate in good faith"

Summary:
Short term: Hillary is bad, Trump is worse
Long term: Hillary is bad,
Trump is a wild card he will most likely fail which might lead to a more polarized fiscal spectrum: GOP rebirth and Democrats going further left.
If he succeeds USA's politics will probably breakdown along a new fault line: Libertarians/Liberals vs Authoritarians(Left and Right)

This is just amateur "what if" thoughts, bash away at it.

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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2016, 05:39:20 pm »
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Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: The Public Sucks. Fuck Hope.
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 05:43:28 pm »
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tl;dr:

Trump is professional and successful sales man.
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 05:46:42 pm »
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2016, 06:19:15 pm »
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RIP TED CRUZ CANDIDACY

WasTED

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AnhihilaTED

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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2016, 06:47:54 pm »
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This is what will happen to anyone foolish enough to try to Stump the Trump.


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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2016, 07:00:16 pm »
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Its like a fever dream.
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2016, 07:28:17 pm »
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Summary:
Short term: Hillary is bad, Trump is worse
Long term: Hillary is bad,
Trump is a wild card he will most likely fail which might lead to a more polarized fiscal spectrum: GOP rebirth and Democrats going further left.
If he succeeds USA's politics will probably breakdown along a new fault line: Libertarians/Liberals vs Authoritarians(Left and Right)

This is just amateur "what if" thoughts, bash away at it.

As an American, this is spot on what I and others see going down. Thank you.

Although the new party alignment goes different ways depending on who you ask. That will depend entirely on what GOP leadership does over the next couple months. I think the most likely scenario is that the leadership embraces "whoever wins" (which is now Trump, rip Kasich), causing a wide range and variety of Republicans to leave the party (many going Democratic, making Dems as a whole more moderate? others like me caring enough about principle and muh ideology to vote for a useless 3rd party).

The Koch brothers have built for themselves what really amounts to a second, personal Republican party in terms of think-tanks and dollarydoos dedicated to their thing (minus voters obv, but Koch Network has significant grassroots manpower). Maybe something will happen with that? They're Libertarians so that's ideologically fine (rip environment though ain't no global warming in the Koch household).

So there might be a Goldwater->Reagan-esque defeat leading to victory a few cycles later. Or, a bunch of Republicans could become Democrats overnight making both parties socially right-er and still economically sick. Libertarian-minded Republicans won't out-shout socialists, and the "value-voters" and Neocons would be left to their own authoritarian devices in the GOP.

Honestly the party was screwed no matter who among the last three won.

Ted Cruz was a religious extremist who was willing to sacrifice his Constitutionalism (really the one thing appealing to me about his campaign and background) to pander to the White Trash constituency that Trump stole from him. John Kasich was just another Neocon (who gesticulated and spoke like Kermit the Frog - watch the debates) and implemented BOTH Common Core (fascist education) and Affordable Care Act healthcare exchanges (fascist healthcare) as governor of Ohio.

I hope the GOP leadership holds the line and opposes a hostile takeover of their party. For me it's time for the Gary Johnson protest vote.
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Re: The Trumphog has seen its shadow
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2016, 08:00:19 pm »
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Trump is the living embodiment of the American dream.

A testament to the fact that man needs neither intelligence nor any sort of marketable skill in order to rise to the top.

But isnt that the whole point of freedom :lol:

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