Leave or stay in the EU?

[Angantyr]

You're acting like it's some mental conspiracy theory and all they want to do is replace native populations. The fact of the matter is it's a change that will happen over 100s of years. It won't be quick and you'll be dead before it becomes noticeable. By which point your children and there children will see it as the norm.

'The chief statistician yesterday identified a rise in immigration as the most significant social change in Britain of recent years.
Len Cook, the former head of New Zealand's statistical service who took over as the UK national statistician in July, said population patterns through most of the 20th century had changed dramatically during the 1990s as migration became the main engine of population growth.'

'Mr Cook said "homegrown" population increases - the surplus of births over deaths - hugely exceeded net migration into the UK from 1900 to 1990. Indeed for much of the century there was a net outflow of people. But between 1991 and 1999 net immigration averaged 104,000 a year, compared with a homegrown population rise averaging 107,000.'

'Mr Cook said the change was particularly stark in the closing years of the century, when migration became the predominant demographic influence. Immigration overtook natural population growth in England and Wales in 1994-95. By 1998-99 net inward migration increased to 194,000, while natural population growth fell to 72,000. "This amounts to a huge shift in the importance of immigration to changes in the British population, with consequences for ethnic mix and age structure," he said.'
(source http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jan/25/race.world)

'About 70% of the population increase between the 2001 and 2011 censuses was due to foreign-born immigration. 7.5 million people (11.9 percent of the population at the time) were born abroad, although the census gives no indication of their immigration status or intended length of stay.'
(source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom)

[Leshma]

Its kind of the reason why the "educated" are losing everywhere, because they lost the respect of everyone else, the "stupids".

Educated are "losing" because they are in minority. As long one soul, one vote system is in place stupid decisions like this will happen. But seeing how people aren't equal in other areas of life, I don't see how retrograde concept of democracy will survive digital age. My current monthly income, thanks to Farage-like leader, is now around 450 euros (down from 550 five years ago). Your is probably around 2000 euros which means that, in this globalized world you create more value for some time period. Why should my vote hold same weight as your?

Elite won't have this for long. Events like these are last punches of unwashed masses.

[Oberyn]

'The chief statistician yesterday identified a rise in immigration as the most significant social change in Britain of recent years.
Len Cook, the former head of New Zealand's statistical service who took over as the UK national statistician in July, said population patterns through most of the 20th century had changed dramatically during the 1990s as migration became the main engine of population growth.'

'Mr Cook said "homegrown" population increases - the surplus of births over deaths - hugely exceeded net migration into the UK from 1900 to 1990. Indeed for much of the century there was a net outflow of people. But between 1991 and 1999 net immigration averaged 104,000 a year, compared with a homegrown population rise averaging 107,000.'

'Mr Cook said the change was particularly stark in the closing years of the century, when migration became the predominant demographic influence. Immigration overtook natural population growth in England and Wales in 1994-95. By 1998-99 net inward migration increased to 194,000, while natural population growth fell to 72,000. "This amounts to a huge shift in the importance of immigration to changes in the British population, with consequences for ethnic mix and age structure," he said.'
(source http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jan/25/race.world)

'About 70% of the population increase between the 2001 and 2011 censuses was due to foreign-born immigration. 7.5 million people (11.9 percent of the population at the time) were born abroad, although the census gives no indication of their immigration status or intended length of stay.'
(source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom)

Like everything else out of Overdriven's mouth concerning immigration the "hundreds of years" is a softened, disengenuous lie misreprensenting the reality. Unless he meant 100 years, in which case that is a lot more accurate. Given the exponential nature of it probably sooner, maybe 50 years, before the natives are displaced as a majority.

[Leshma]

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Farage for PM!

[Oberyn]

What about unafiliateds? Or can you only vote through a party?

[Leshma]

Ask Lord Ashcroft.

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Cornwall has issued an urgent plea for reassurance that it will not be worse off following the Brexit vote.

The county has received a "significant amounts" of funding from the EU for the past 15 years due to its "relatively weak economy".

But, after 56.5% of voters in the county chose to leave the Union, the council says it is now seeking urgent reassurance that money allocated to it will still be received.

Cornwall pleas for reassurance it will not be 'worse off' following Brexit vote

 

[Angantyr]

Example of someone who did not mix or learn from other civilizations:

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Oberyn: I agree shit shouldn't happen too fast. But u have to acknowledge isolationism had no future either. Especially I think there should be no tolerance for intolerant cultures. Besides Europe is mainly a trade and tool for European nations to stand strong together, not for destroying identities. If anything is destroying identities in this world it's US entertainment.. ;)

Most sensible of course is to only mix and learn from cultures that are actually desirable - and in manageable numbers (below 5-10% of the population). People have no problems with people from civilized cultures, just see how well Asians are integrating in Europe, or how well we mix with each other and the US. What people refuse to put up with is mass immigration from some of the most backwards places on this Earth: Forty-six Muslim countries combined contribute just 1 percent of the world’s scientific literature; Spain and India each contribute more of the world’s scientific literature than those countries taken together. Spain translates more books in a single year than the entire Arab world has in the past thousand years. Cultural points that can be felt in almost every aspect of their societies. And that is discounting Africa, which is even worse.

[Gurnisson]

[Grytviken]

This makes old Vlad very happy

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Putin is our new bff and Russia will possibly be the US's greatest ally in the future. Trump wants to make the EU pay the upkeep for US bases in Europe and make NATO members pay higher fees proportionate to their lack of contribution , no more free rides for the EU and Russia has been our biggest ally atm fighting T's.

[Leshma]

Can't wait for cooperation between Lockheed and Sukhoi. They may create fighter that will help us fend off aliens.

[Leshma]

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling

[Teeth]

I am not sure if most voters realized that their vote on this is likely to make a way bigger difference for their daily lives than the general elections.

[LordBerenger]

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling

Where's Harry Potter gonna move now to?

[Oberyn]

Oh no, the poor multimillionaire got indirectly called indecent. What a vitriolic and unjust label, absolutely the worst insult any group has been slandered with in this event. Maybe it's time for her to trott out her retarded Death Eaters comparison again, as the last time the scots tried to vote for independence.

I shouldn't be surprised at the crass gullibility of morons who keep sharing that age graph. Absolute zero grasp of statistics and what numbers mean. Just millenials angrily pointing fingers and blaming anything else but themselves. Anyone want to place a bet in which age bracket the vast majority of abstainers were, as in EVERY SINGLE ELECTION? Go on, hazard a guess. Making it immediately about race, age and of course class, because the hilarious hypocrisy of upper/middle class millenials shitting on the poor (as long as they are the proper ethnicity) never gets old.

[Leshma]

The crosses of St Andrew and St Patrick will come off of the union jack....Ulster will reunite with the south. Scotland will be free and independent, and both Ireland and Scotland will watch England reduced to the tiny insignificant little country it was 1000 years ago.  The "empire" is finished and though God sometimes takes his time, sooner or later he gets around to righting wrongs.
 
Eirinn go Brach

 

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-northern-ireland-eu-referendum-result-latest-live-border-poll-united-martin-mcguinness-a7099276.html

Answer from the "other" side: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/24/arlene-foster-northern-ireland-martin-mcguinness-border-poll-wont-happen

Could this endanger Good Friday Agreement?