Leave or stay in the EU?

[Osiris]

I agree no one can survive outside of the EU.   I hope farage goes away now though. Guy comes out with some retarded shit and doesnt help anyone.


Question now is how much feeling and passion hinders the negotiations. I can't see Germany wanting trade tariffs due to the amount they sell us but some countries may want harsh treatment to stop other referendums.

I would be OK with a Scot referendum, if they are pro EU they have every right to try one.

[Grytviken]

I agree no one can survive outside of the EU.

Switzerland does just fine. Worker mobility is overrated, so are EU policy barriers on the single market that scare off investors with their monopolies. Does the EU make the EFTA pay their bills? Looks like the EFTA gets to reap all the benefits of being in the EU ( free trade, mobility) but gets to decide how they want to contribute to the EEA themselves instead of having politicians in Brussels decide for them, leaving the EU seems like a better option any way you look at it.

[Xant]

I agree no one can survive outside of the EU. 

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[Berserkadin]

The people of Great Britain repossesses their right to govern their own country as a sovereign state.

Horrifying.

[Grytviken]

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[SirCymro_Crusader]

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[Grytviken]

Well Scotland will most likely leave the union as they aren't going to want to stay on a sinking ship.

What annoys me is a lot of leave voters were all about protecting their patriotism and national pride and the only thing they've done is broken the country further. Also a large percentage of leave voters were of an age where they won't have to deal with the long term consequences,  those repurcussions will be felt by our generation. If under 18s can't vote over 80s shouldn't be allowed to either.

Ah well the next few years are gonna be hella interesting

You do realize Switzerland, Norway and Iceland get to reap all the benefits of the  EU single market trade but don't have to pay membership fees or have non-elected appointed commissioners in the EU take their tax money and allocate it for them? I think your politicians have just been lying to you about the repercussions of leaving the EU. It would be a disaster for the EU for treat the UK any different than the EFTA. Also the Netherlands and France are calling for referendums on leaving.

[SirCymro_Crusader]

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[Osiris]

Guess I should add a kappa to make sure people realise I wasn't serious with the not surviving outside the eu part 

Hopefully ukip dies and farage retires I don't like them even of I didn't vote to remain.

The EU will either fracture now or move closer to a superstate either way it wi be an interesting few years.

[Overdriven]

Cameron resigned. Kinda respect the decision. At least he's sticking by his principles. Funnily enough all those Labour leave voters have probably just saddled us with George Osbourne as leader.

[Umbra]

Hahah the cunts actually did it. Wanted them to leave just for the lolz

[darmaster]

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We gon die

[SirCymro_Crusader]

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[Grytviken]

Brits are notoriously lazy and don't like doing jobs that they believe are demeaning, some of these jobs create the foundation for a working society but bits are just arrogant and think it's beneath them, even unemployed folk won't accept a job in certain areas.

So taking advantage of immigrants and paying them shit wages is an acceptable solution? Plumbers here make on average $80-120 an hour, in the UK they make $12 on average. Who would want to work for those shitty wages lol

[Overdriven]

Cameron has stated he will resign by October this year. Not a huge deal, but the last thing I want right now is a hurried general election following this referendum before we can assess the impact. From my biased perspective, I want enough time for people to realise 'we fucked up' before we elect a UKIP government (which again, how can that party even exist now we're independent?)

It won't be a hurried GE. Con will just elect a new leader. Likelihood is it will be Boris pushing for leadership against Osbourne.

So taking advantage of immigrants and paying them shit wages is an acceptable solution? Plumbers here make on average $80-120 an hour, in the UK they make $12 on average. Who would want to work for those shitty wages lol

Leaving the EU won't change a thing to do with immigration. It's in the interest of those in power to keep them coming. Labour because it gives them a voting base and Tory because immigrants are good for big businesses.