Leave or stay in the EU?

[Molly]

In attempt to standardize courses all over similar faculties in my country, they catered to lowest common denominator. Faculties with reputation for producing high quality students suffered because of this change. Now there is little difference between newly opened private universities and state universities in big cities. In other words, educational system of this country is now producing idiots all over the place, just because government had to pressure universities to strictly follow global politics and make changes accordingly. People on Belgrade university had to study hard individually or in groups they organized themselves, now they attend prolonged high school... team based learning, courses done in groups, awarding points for every little assignment, workshops... it is bullshit.

Don't even start me on certificates...

Same in Germany.

[Xant]

And all it does in the end is make college degrees meaningless, it was already becoming the new high school, now it really is that. Making college easier just devalues it and forces the students to study even longer to get the same prestige as a college degree had when it was harder.

That's why I'm a high school drop out, not because I couldn't hack it

[Paul]

Yeah, right. A sensible decision to severely limit your future choices because of a few inconvenient years in school.

[Xant]

Only mediocre people are limited by their education or lack thereof, Paul.

[Falka]

Lack of formal education prevents you from getting a job in some areas. You can not be e.g. a doctor without an academic degree.

[Paul]

Shhh, he's working on something...

[Xant]

Lack of formal education prevents you from getting a job in some areas. You can not be e.g. a doctor without an academic degree.

It's a good thing I don't want to be e.g. a doctor.

Also, not true. Plenty of fake doctors around.

[Paul]

I don't want to be an egg doctor either but at least having the option to is nice. Fucking up school takes possible pathways away in the later life. I don't think that's a good thing.

[Moncho]

Does having a degree affect whether you leave or stay in the EU?

[Paul]

Yes.

no degree -> leave, make bristain great again
degree -> mah shekels! plz no leave

[Golem]

You can still be a doctor, a wealthy one, even.

[Algarn]

Yes.

no functional brain -> leave, make bristain great again
functional brain -> mah shekels! plz no leave

Fixed. Having a functional brain doesn't require you to sit for hours, listening to some blabbering that is more or less interesting. I'm going to know soon if I have my first university year in english, and god knows that the courses were a joke, it's more like general culture for the biggest part of it. Even if having a degree is gratifying, only you can decide if it was worth it, considering you can probably become someone in life even without a degree. The example I'd like to point out, was the gendarmerie sub-officer test whose I managed the written part "far" above the others (12, 13, and 17 out of 20 on the tests), with only my "poor" A grade.

NB: I think science degrees are simply more important (and far more useful) than poor useless english degrees, don't get me wrong.

[Xant]

I don't want to be an egg doctor either but at least having the option to is nice. Fucking up school takes possible pathways away in the later life. I don't think that's a good thing.

The only option, Paul-san, as it were, is becoming a rich CEO of your own company. Don't settle for less.

[Osiris]

And that Algarn is why we cant have any proper debates about anything


Agree with me = functional brain!!!
Disagree with me = Non functional brain!

thinking that your opinion is so smart and superior and that the other side are just morons is why we never move forwards. Both sides think the same and thus we hit stalemate



same with normal politics. Left and right both assume they know best and discount the other side as just being idiots

[Algarn]

And that Algarn is why we cant have any proper debates about anything


Agree with me = functional brain!!!
Disagree with me = Non functional brain!

thinking that your opinion is so smart and superior and that the other side are just morons is why we never move forwards. Both sides think the same and thus we hit stalemate



same with normal politics. Left and right both assume they know best and discount the other side as just being idiots

I assume those who're for the Brexit do not know/realize at all the consequences of all this.