Leave or stay in the EU?

[Kafein]

I find it fascinating that the right wing parties who seek to secede from the EU are also those who fail to bring it forward despite most of them arguing that they want a "better EU". But ok, let the UK leave, it was always more a weight than an asset anyway. Case in point and topical, the UK's consistent sabotaging of EU fiscal regulations. European construction should have been vertical rather than horizontal, pretty much everybody agrees on that today.

[Murmillus_Prime]

I find it fascinating that the right wing parties who seek to secede from the EU are also those who fail to bring it forward despite most of them arguing that they want a "better EU". But ok, let the UK leave, it was always more a weight than an asset anyway. Case in point and topical, the UK's consistent sabotaging of EU fiscal regulations. European construction should have been vertical rather than horizontal, pretty much everybody agrees on that today.

What do you mean by that statement?

[Gmnotutoo]

America will accept you <3.

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pls bring oil as tribute

[Tibes]

More sI love youcrapers and blocks of flats.

The UK blocks many of these proposals because we all want manor-houses with large scenic gardens.

Heh. Thats not really their fault tbh. Thats just how the british think. They cant help it. Kinda the ones who listened to them in the first place are really to blame.

[Xant]

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[Angantyr]

It's a shame the pan-European project has become less about European culture and the sovereignty of member states than unrestricted immigration, centralization of power and undemocratic actors passing undemocratic laws far from public scrutiny.
The organization would have a lot more support if it respected national identities and stopped pushing towards the federal government of the USE. Most people seem fine with some security politics and trade, like in the original European Coal and Steel Community.

[Murmillus_Prime]

More sI love youcrapers and blocks of flats.

The UK blocks many of these proposals because we all want manor-houses with large scenic gardens.

Ah he was actually talking about the construction of buildings, not of the Union. I see.

[Yeldur]

I find it fascinating that the right wing parties who seek to secede from the EU are also those who fail to bring it forward despite most of them arguing that they want a "better EU". But ok, let the UK leave, it was always more a weight than an asset anyway. Case in point and topical, the UK's consistent sabotaging of EU fiscal regulations. European construction should have been vertical rather than horizontal, pretty much everybody agrees on that today.

More a weight? How so? I guarantee you you'll have a harder time without our trade lol. (Not saying we'll actually stop trading with the EU, that's very much doubtful, and the EU would be idiotic to try that, considering how we're one of the best trade capitals that exists)

But either way it's fine, the EU is more of a weight on us than anything so the feeling is mutual

After going through the thread I am interested in leaving the EU now - On a side note, the poll result that we had at college following the debate came out to 67% voting to stay and 33% voting to leave, interesting result. Obviously the result is only showing roughly 200 or so college students so it's far from accurate in the eyes of the entire public, but an interesting poll none the less.

[Yeldur]

More sI love youcrapers and blocks of flats.

The UK blocks many of these proposals because we all want manor-houses with large scenic gardens.

Who doesn't? However; with a shitty PM like Cameron, that is but a dream.

[Murmillus_Prime]

More a weight? How so? I guarantee you you'll have a harder time without our trade lol. (Not saying we'll actually stop trading with the EU, that's very much doubtful, and the EU would be idiotic to try that, considering how we're one of the best trade capitals that exists)

But either way it's fine, the EU is more of a weight on us than anything so the feeling is mutual

After going through the thread I am interested in leaving the EU now - On a side note, the poll result that we had at college following the debate came out to 67% voting to stay and 33% voting to leave, interesting result. Obviously the result is only showing roughly 200 or so college students so it's far from accurate in the eyes of the entire public, but an interesting poll none the less.

Plus I herrd, not sure how true.. But some schools/colleges have been actively promoting the EU and its benefits to their students... Talk about indocrination, young minds ripe for brainrape.

[Kafein]

Let's not forget that it is the EU that introduced the standardization of university-level course units to end the utter chaos that reigned before and spends millions every year offering funding for internships abroad. Ew.

[Rhekimos]

Plus I herrd, not sure how true.. But some schools/colleges have been actively promoting the EU and its benefits to their students... Talk about indocrination, young minds ripe for brainrape.

A school/college teaching the benefits of EU is brainrape?

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Isn't that kind of their job? Making sure the students understand civic issues, not to mention history and social studies.

Everyone in the UK has skin in the game so I'd be really surprised if such a pressing issue wasn't discussed in schools. Quite a bit.
Using education authority to spread misinformation would not be at all cool however.

[Leshma]

Let's not forget that it is the EU that introduced the standardization of university-level course units to end the utter chaos that reigned before and spends millions every year offering funding for internships abroad. Ew.

That's actually horrible. University should be a special place, like a school for wizards. Every university should be closed shell, doing everything on its own. More things should function like that, to keep balance with interchangeable parts that make everything today. Unique traits that once made this world beautiful are dying out under pressure of standardization.

[Murmillus_Prime]

A school/college teaching the benefits of EU is brainrape?

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Isn't that kind of their job? Making sure the students understand civic issues, not to mention history and social studies.

Everyone in the UK has skin in the game so I'd be really surprised if such a pressing issue wasn't discussed in schools. Quite a bit.
Using education authority to spread misinformation would not be at all cool however.

Using the education system to implant political bias in young developing minds is a form of indocrtination. Educating people about the EU what it stands for what it does is fine, but to promote it positively instead of neutrally can be considered misleading. It's not too disimilar to a parent forcing their child to adopt their religion, I'm not trying to compare religion to the EU but it's the method that's similar. H1tler youth, cubs of the caliphate, children of the EU.

[Paul]

I daily thank the EU for the micro-USB-standard for phones.