Gear dupe. Broken loot zystem in siege battles

[Vovka]

Since even the most stupid among EU finally noticed that the system is broken time to raise this issue and make some preventive bans among those who abuse "raid" and "fief transfer".

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• The winning side gets 50% of the total spent during the battle items (broken for -2) and all items not spent by the losing side

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In case if the attacker won the siege battle he gets:

• 50% of the total spent during the battle items (broken for -2) and all items  not spent by the defenders
• plus all items that had been in fief remain untouched

In case if the attacker lose the siege battle
defenders gets:

• They get nothing from items of attaking army or % of the total spent during the battle items
• but at the same time, they has nothing to lose, all items in fief remain untouched

Attackers gets:

• 25% of the total spent during the battle items (broken for -2)

In case if the attacker won the RAID siege battle
Attackers gets:

• Attackers gets all items from fief
• Def lose nothing all items remain inside fief
• Aka dupe equipment

 This bug was reported to chadz and fix will be "soon".
 
While it is not fixed i ask faction don't use raid option. Also ask admins consider any raid battle as an attempt to Dupe and ban the attacker. Same for "Fief transfer" with equipment inside transfered fief.
During the strat 6 we (uif) checked almost all the raids/"fief transfers" on EU part of map and in most cases the number of crates that get the attaker does not exceed 400, so we believe that on the European side of the map there were no  attempts to Dupe (in large scale).

[GRANDMOM]

Since even the most stupid among EU finally noticed that the system is broken time to raise this issue and make some preventive bans among those who abuse "raid" and "fief transfer".

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• The winning side gets 50% of the total spent during the battle items (broken for -2) and all items not spent by the losing side

(click to show/hide)

In case if the attacker won the siege battle he gets:

• 50% of the total spent during the battle items (broken for -2) and all items  not spent by the defenders
• plus all items that had been in fief remain untouched

In case if the attacker lose the siege battle
defenders gets:

• They get nothing from items of attaking army or % of the total spent during the battle items
• but at the same time, they has nothing to lose, all items in fief remain untouched

Attackers gets:

• 25% of the total spent during the battle items (broken for -2)

In case if the attacker won the RAID siege battle
Attackers gets:

• Attackers gets all items from fief
• Def lose nothing all items remain inside fief
• Aka dupe equipment

 This bug was reported to chadz and fix will be "soon".
 
While it is not fixed i ask faction don't use raid option. Also ask admins consider any raid battle as an attempt to Dupe and ban the attacker. Same for "Fief transfer" with equipment inside transfered fief.
During the strat 6 we (uif) checked almost all the raids/"fief transfers" on EU part of map and in most cases the number of crates that get the attaker does not exceed 400, so we believe that on the European side of the map there were no  attempts to Dupe (in large scale).

There has been plenty of "fief transfers" though from what I have seen.....

[Oreo]

so thats why he keeps raiding Durrin....

[Vovka]

There has been plenty of "fief transfers" though from what I have seen.....

on each our "fief transfer" i accept all players from the enemy fractions if such applications were so they can see if village is empty or not 
Almost all of your "fief transfer", we observed from the outside and checked the crates )) like this
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[the real god emperor]

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[Renay]

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I hereby declare war on Autisttilas Horde for obvious bug abusing.

[Butan]

I dont see much battles in the archive that are "strange" though, so 99.9% of Strat is dupe free atm. I hope that the community will stay vigilant now that the bug is "out in the open" and diss any who tries that shit until its fixed.

[Nebun]

I dont see much battles in the archive that are "strange" though, so 99.9% of Strat is dupe free atm. I hope that the community will stay vigilant now that the bug is "out in the open" and diss any who tries that shit until its fixed.

Every fief transfer, every raid! Check even ur allies plz.
If it happens by mistake force them to drop in neutral fief.

[GRANDMOM]

on each our "fief transfer" i accept all players from the enemy fractions if such applications were so they can see if village is empty or not 
Almost all of your "fief transfer", we observed from the outside and checked the crates )) like this
before:

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Im not even sure if I wanna know how you checked all our "fief transfers", and I am not exactly sure what the two images show, fallrach being heavely armed and having 50 crates and then fallrach being merely armed and having 300 crates - with one extra ticket.

Do u mean he attacked a village with 329 heavy armed men, having 50 crates - won the battle, lost no tickets, gained 250 crates and then lost his "heavy" and became only armed?

[Keshian]

Since even the most stupid among EU finally noticed that the system is broken time to raise this issue and make some preventive bans among those who abuse "raid" and "fief transfer".

So for how many weeks did you know this and only finally posted after Americans posted in diplomacy?  No point in raising issue as long as the "stupid among Europeans" didn't know about it, but take advantage of it in the meanwhile.  Typical UIF!

[Vovka]

So for how many weeks did you know this and only finally posted after Americans posted in diplomacy?  No point in raising issue as long as the "stupid among Europeans" didn't know about it, but take advantage of it in the meanwhile.  Typical UIF!

we report it to chadz on next day

[Vovka]

Im not even sure if I wanna know how you checked all our "fief transfers", and I am not exactly sure what the two images show, fallrach being heavely armed and having 50 crates and then fallrach being merely armed and having 300 crates - with one extra ticket.

Do u mean he attacked a village with 329 heavy armed men, having 50 crates - won the battle, lost no tickets, gained 250 crates and then lost his "heavy" and became only armed?

he looted goods not equipment
army quality  calculated summary items weight (excluding those that are in crates) divided by the number of troops so then he get +1 troops the average weight decreased from "heavy" to "armed"

[GRANDMOM]

he looted goods not equipment
army quality  calculated summary items weight (excluding those that are in crates) divided by the number of troops so then he get +1 troops the average weight decreased from "heavy" to "armed"

Yes, I am aware that the weight of the gear per soldier defines armament level (goods excluded). So, what was your original point? He has 50 crates and in the next image he had 250 crates - I dont follow vovka. Did he loot 200 crates from a "fief transfer" and in that case what battle are we talking about?

Cause I am quite sure I can trust Fallrach on this, he doesnt strike me as a guy that cheats

[imisshotmail]

Yes, I am aware that the weight of the gear per soldier defines armament level (goods excluded). So, what was your original point? He has 50 crates and in the next image he had 250 crates - I dont follow vovka. Did he loot 200 crates from a "fief transfer" and in that case what battle are we talking about?

Cause I am quite sure I can trust Fallrach on this, he doesnt strike me as a guy that cheats

He's saying he didn't cheat because he only gained goods and not duped equipment. He just checked every fief transfer to make sure no cheats were happening (and didn't find any).

[Vovka]

He's saying he didn't cheat because he only gained goods and not duped equipment. He just checked every fief transfer to make sure no cheats were happening (and didn't find any).

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