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[Gravoth_iii]

Would you not agree that if a few AGIwhores snuck around back and took on the archers whilst your main force fought against their main force that would give you a significant advantage? I believe it would.

It definitely would! Too bad that it doesnt work, first of all its basically a suicide mission, and if it succeeds you at best get 2 archers out of it, who are probably not even aware so they are the worse part of the archer squad. Archers are just too aware, cav might take them out occassionally though, much more effectively than agi builds.

[Gurgumul]

What do you people think of cavalry as the main force of a team? Imagine a team consisting of ~70% cavalry, ~20% archers, and some infantry with polearms to defend the archers. It just seems like cavalry is (not in-game, but in general) better in almost every aspect than infantry when it comes to battles in open areas. The only thing infantry is good for are sieges, because you can't climb a ladder with a horse. If I were a medieval warrior, I'd rather be on a horse than on foot, if I could afford it.

[MURDERTRON]

(Apologies with my analogy, I'm aware that the US won all actual battles in Vietnam but my point was that they used Guerrilla tactics to wear them down to a point where they were getting absolutely ruined by them.)

You forget that your point brings along with it the implication that every person on the other team is playing an AGIwhore when teams will be much more balanced out, I mean a couple of AGIwhores would perform Guerrilla like tactics to split numbers and break them apart whilst your main force decimates the people (Now between a boulder and an annoying cunt AGIwhore)

Would you not agree that if a few AGIwhores snuck around back and took on the archers whilst your main force fought against their main force that would give you a significant advantage? I believe it would.

I think you're assuming that this game had good or balanced maps.  Instead, the ranged will all sit on top of a steep hill and fire down continuously on infantry as they slowly walk up the hill.  And your agi won't make you any faster going up the hill, but now you've sacrificed all that HP and armor.

[Asheram]

That was just the web server being down. The game actually worked, with the exception of Strategus.

Sry but the game didn't work for me, the launcher would time out then it tried a proxy and came back with failure to find anything. I tried all night but was stuck playing native.

[MURDERTRON]

Sry but the game didn't work for me, the launcher would time out then it tried a proxy and came back with failure to find anything. I tried all night but was stuck playing native.

Click "offline" then play (online).

[Asheram]

Click "offline" then play (online).

now you tell me, thanks alot 

[Gravoth_iii]

What do you people think of cavalry as the main force of a team? Imagine a team consisting of ~70% cavalry, ~20% archers, and some infantry with polearms to defend the archers. It just seems like cavalry is (not in-game, but in general) better in almost every aspect than infantry when it comes to battles in open areas. The only thing infantry is good for are sieges, because you can't climb a ladder with a horse. If I were a medieval warrior, I'd rather be on a horse than on foot, if I could afford it.

Theres a point where the enemies are completely forced to adapt because cav is simply too strong, but when enemies are forced to unite they generally win, depending on how the cav plays. This at least happened when we did a plated charger themenight, basically unstoppable untill they started corner camping with pikes and stakes. Though if we didnt just suicide charge for fun we couldve probably won through stalling untill flags.

Cav has a sweet spot at like 30-40% of the team, insanely powerful.

[Gurgumul]

insanely powerful.

You mean good at backstabbing out of nowhere?

[Gravoth_iii]

You mean good at backstabbing out of nowhere?

Not really, just brute forcing with bumps, constant bumpdowns untill dead by some swings, just smashing through infantry, lone people have basically no chance and will die.

[Asheram]

Not really, just brute forcing with bumps, constant bumpdowns untill dead by some swings, just smashing through infantry, lone people have basically no chance and will die.

This is only true if theres a pack of them otherwise cav is easy to counter if theres only 1 or 2.

[Gravoth_iii]

This is only true if theres a pack of them otherwise cav is easy to counter if theres only 1 or 2.

Well the playstyle of cav changes varying on the numbers they have, if they are fewer then they will do the backstabbing and stealthy playstyle. But we were discussing cav in large quantities, completely off topic anyways.

Did i mention buff shields?

And also polearm leftswing is the worst swing in the game currently, absolutely horrible. With both 1h and 2h i feel both swings have very usefull properties, but polearm leftswing i avoid like the plague. If im in a 2v1 with a teammate on my right stopping me from rightswinging then i often prefer running than leftswinging. The only time i use left swing is by accident. Its short, its slow, it has bad sweet spots, it glances and its from my experience bad at hiltslashing with. It has no redeeming factors.

[Shemaforash]

Cavalry in cRPG is only strong in numbers, individually they are a weak class on par with archers.

[Jona]

And also polearm leftswing is the worst swing in the game currently, absolutely horrible. With both 1h and 2h i feel both swings have very usefull properties, but polearm leftswing i avoid like the plague. If im in a 2v1 with a teammate on my right stopping me from rightswinging then i often prefer running than leftswinging. The only time i use left swing is by accident. Its short, its slow, it has bad sweet spots, it glances and its from my experience bad at hiltslashing with. It has no redeeming factors.

How to defeat a polearmer in just 1 easy step:

1) Stand just a little bit behind him and to his right.


It's really annoying how horrible polearms are in teamfights if your teammates are too retarded to know how to properly let you support/support you. Since your rightswing, overhead, and stab all start on the right side of your body, all you can do is use the shorter-than-1h-leftswing leftswing if you have a friendly nearby to your right.

[Jambi]

Cavalry in cRPG is only strong in numbers, individually they are a weak class on par with archers.

Very true, when they are riding its not very hard to shoot them, horses are very big targets.
But once you down their horse, and they charge at you with a shield. Its like a 2nd life for them, with the perfect counter. And with the trend of Lance/Polearm builds, they can still be an effective infantry.
And ontop of that 90% of the time when i down a horse, and try and shoot the fallen rider, the arrow simply hits the horse ragdoll.. very annoying.

Luckely most horsemen make the mistake of going in way to deep, or very far behind enemy lines. And are in for a long long walk to merge back up with their team when horse downed. Or they simply spergrage about archers, and make buff cav/nerf archer threads while at it. Fogetting they can most likely still one shot archers, and help out their team as infantry.

[AwesomeHail]

Make light armour viable again ;-;