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Offline Angantyr

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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2016, 06:51:49 pm »
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http://www.altinget.dk/artikel/hoejere-kriminalitetsrate-hos-muslimske-grupper

The statistics index in the corner are official statistics from the Danish government about crime rates among 15-79 year old men, correlated for age and socio-economic status. Eight of the ethnicities in the top ten are all from Sunni Muslim countries, with the two remaining having a Muslim minority. As you can see other migrants (Western and Asian) are usually well-behaved, as anyone would expect of guests or people wanting to become a part of society in a new country.

Other minorities are concerned about Muslim crime rates too, like the Jewish and Hindu communities (the English Defense League even has a Sikh division). Iranian Shia muslims are usually also much better integrated.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2016, 07:20:12 pm »
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Vietnamese from any generation has never attacked our girls and never blew up any bombs. End of story.

To be fair, Arabs didn't attack them either.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2016, 07:23:40 pm »
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Basically, it's about immigration vs mass immigration, no one has a problem with immigration but any rational person should object to mass immigration, especially from the Middle East, that only leads to failed integration, multi-culturalism, identity politics (like in the US), soaring crime (especially violent crime and types of crime never seen before in the host countries), parallel societies and social friction.

President Sarkozy, Prime Minister Cameron even Chancellor Merkel has all admitted multi-culturalism has failed, Merkel even used the words 'utterly failed'. And this was before the current immigration crisis.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/8317497/Nicolas-Sarkozy-declares-multiculturalism-had-failed.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-12371994
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed

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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2016, 07:26:25 pm »
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I don't think it's right to compare these refugees seeking asylum with the other people who've sought migration through the whole administrative procedure back in the days.
Just as a point of view.

Solution? In Sweden snow is probably half of the year, if not longer (lol) ... instead let them attack on girls, better turn them into snow shovel ... smelly sluggards want only money from taxes, but job... c'mon it's for morons... this is a real problem and solution at the same time - work.

If there wouldn't be the problem of minimum collateral and other social welfare benefits, maybe.. but well, they wouldn't have come in the first place then.
To be honest, I don't care that they get a all the welfare stuff and what so on for nothing in exchange, if they would obey the government and behave themselves.

I'm living in Vienna and since all the refugees here in Austria are trying to settle in Vienna ultimately, I've encountered various refugees in the past months and I can say at first hand that some of them are really shitheads with no manners at all.
In the end, that's also the problem, in public people are only facing that kind of refugee and the hate spreads and extends among the whole population.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2016, 08:05:30 pm »
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In general especially the videos by angantyr are very biased and one-sided. The video xant posted is better, but still I don't get what exactly is your point or approach for a solution. All muslims are evil so give them run?
One-sided for highlighting specific problems like no go areas and schools with 80%+ immigrants that teachers have lost control of, students chasing the teachers around and beating them and the same teachers being barred from speaking with the press? Immigrant students ganging up and beating the native german students?

Pointing out an area where there isn't a problem doesn't diminish a problem in an entirely different area. It's two different things and it shouldn't be necessary to point it out everytime you point out a problem. If I say 'there's a lot of young men who are pickpockets in the area around Templehof' it doesn't detract from the original statement to say 'but there's also a lot who aren't'. The problem still exists.

There's positive stories but it's logical to focus on the problems because those are the areas that needs adjustment and where something could be done better.

People are in general rational enough for the journalists not to have to be pointing it out every time out of political correctness or for fear that the 'wrong' people might get the 'wrong' ideas or support the New Right.

In regards to it being biased, when it's as serious as violent crime and no go zones for police and firemen and the native population at large I think what we should be concerning ourselves with is the subject matter, and no condemnation is strong enough for some of the things going on and the policies enabling these.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2016, 11:11:23 pm »
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One-sided for highlighting specific problems like no go areas and schools with 80%+ immigrants that teachers have lost control of, students chasing the teachers around and beating them and the same teachers being barred from speaking with the press? Immigrant students ganging up and beating the native german students?

Pointing out an area where there isn't a problem doesn't diminish a problem in an entirely different area. It's two different things and it shouldn't be necessary to point out it out everytime you point out a problem. If I say 'there's a lot of young men who are pickpockets in the area around Templehof' it doesn't detract from the original statement to say 'but there's also a lot who aren't'. The problem still exists.

There's positive stories but it's logical to focus on the problems because those are the areas that needs adjustment and where something could be done better.

If the journalists should point it out every time for political reasons I think people should be left with the benefit of the doubt of being rational human beings capabable of thinking by themselves.

In regards to it being biased, when it's as serious as no go zones for police and firemen and the native population at large what I concern myself with is the subject matter.

DF is going over 30% during the next elections, and it will sort itself out somehow ;)
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2016, 11:19:34 pm »
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Another great story for the right-wing populism *sigh*

Populism? It's a fact that the migrants are causing problems, and countries like Sweden are seriously fucked up by them with many "no-go" zones already.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2016, 12:27:35 am »
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why would anything be lost, in 12 years or so you will vote your new hi tler when majority of people will be really pissed (they're not really pissed yet) and resolve the order within a few days. the problem is he will probably keep his power for a bit longer than needed...
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2016, 12:38:40 am »
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To be fair, Arabs didn't attack them either.

Probably not, but they did it with our neighbors, moreover what would they do here - coming here is by definition stupid cuz you have to work for own subsistence. Anyway, I think they feel through the skin, that an attack on our girls on the same day would end with serious injury or death.

You can hear the outrage? These are the cultural differences. We are brought up with a sense of respect for women. Some of us have even ridiculous behavior like kissing a woman's hand in greeting, while they were seeing a girl in a short dress only see ordinary whore.

Only one New Year's Eve night in Cologne - 600 attacks. It's hard to believe.

Populism?

Yes. Such situations are indeed an ideal for populists. They will incite hatred to build electorate. Low instincts are very easy to play. This is a serious and dangerous situation.

DF is going over 30% during the next elections...

What DF is ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Germany

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@Heibai - It seems to me that immigrants have two options. Obey the local rules or leave at our expense. If they can not leave, they have only one option.

BTW - Try to do something wrong in Saudi Arabia...

why would anything be lost, in 12 years or so you will vote your new hi tler when majority of people will be really pissed (they're not really pissed yet) and resolve the order within a few days. the problem is he will probably keep his power for a bit longer than needed...

That is what worries me the most...
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2016, 12:48:37 am »
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Who will save Europe the next time when they vote in Natzees as leaders? Russia, USA or China this time?
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2016, 12:57:00 am »
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Who will save Europe the next time when they vote in Natzees as leaders? Russia, USA or China this time?

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« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2016, 01:53:38 am »
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http://trumpdonald.org/

China will help and have u all make cheap IPhones when ur liberated. In return u get awesome Chinese food. No more boring European crappy food.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2016, 02:19:06 am »
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What DF is ?

It's Danish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_People's_Party - Angantyr is from Denmark.

Germany will get over it, it's a big country, and less of a socialist paradise in comparison to Sweden. Sweden will have to bite the pillow in and take it. But Denmark can still be saved! Draconian integration laws will hopefully do the trick. :)

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It's pretty good actually:

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Danish People's Party's stated goals are to protect the freedom and cultural heritage of the Danish people, including the family, the Monarchy and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Denmark, to enforce a strict rule of law, to work against Denmark becoming a multi-ethnic society by limiting immigration and promoting cultural assimilation of admitted immigrants, to maintain a strong welfare system for those in need, and to promote entrepreneurship and economic growth by strengthening education and encouraging people to work, and to protect the environment and natural resources
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2016, 02:23:46 am »
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A poorly constructed bait video to start discussing a real topic.

60 minutes is a bit behind with the no go zones, they have tried for that angle years ago and failed.

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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2016, 02:37:56 am »
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These are the cultural differences. We are brought up with a sense of respect for women.

You must not fool yourself - that's just an illusion.
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