Wind

[Drunken_sailor]

Is there going to be winds that would effect missile flight?

[Gaz.Spencer]

That would stop archers from being so bloody annoying

[Yeldur]

The ultimate archer counter, add this and I will forever be happy

[Uther Pendragon]

That would stop archers from being so bloody annoying enjoyable to play

Let's face it, realism is cool and all, but some factors are absolutely opposite of fun when implemented. I'm sure that since they're building a game from the very basics by themselves, they can think of different ways to make archers more balanced.

[Gaz.Spencer]

Yeah I suppose we don't want Mediaval Archery Simulator. But we also don't want bad arrow damage. Maybe having no sight could help? And just having bad accuracy in general. Maybe not to bad, but just to stop 'Sniping'

[Drunken_sailor]

I think I would enjoy wind if they upped the fire rate that way, you would have to loose a few arrows to get a feel for the drift, and increasing the fire rate would make that tolerable.

[Golem]

Wind is a better alternative to RNG.

[Jezbelle]

I personally think that hitting someone with an arrow in MBG should be as hard as it is to hit someone with an arrow in real life. Period.

I don't care what mechanics need to be employed to replicate that level of difficulty, wether it's adding wind, or a "sight", or making the arrow travel "straighter" or "slower"... these are all potentially necessary to translate warfare into a video game.

But no matter what combination of mechanics are decided upon, the correct result should correspond to the REAL LIFE difficulty level of hitting someone with an arrow. Just my opinion.

[Jezbelle]

PS. It would also be cool to have arrows that "glanced" off or "ricocheted" off of full-plate armor, if the arrow did not strike head-on.

With a "ding" sound effect 

[Golem]

I agree. Also hitboxes should be placed with respect to major veins and organs. I just hate it when an arrow hits my hand and suddenly I go down like a rock.

[Micah]

Wind isnt that bad of an idea ... imo its a really good one actually.
Iirc, it was already discussed in the restricted forums as an candidate for implementation. Cant say it for sure and im to lazy to look it up though :s

The impact on arrow flight is pretty scalable and thus makes it pretty good for balancing - one shouldnt think of it as just a nerf tool tho, its more of an nice challenge generator to me ... Imagine ranged who shoot with the wind will have faster, straighter arrows path and more damage ;P

Its a mechanics that could deepen ranged combat skill level in the technincal and also the tactical dimension.
It also adds an nice random element to the fighting in combination with other conditions (day/night, fog,rain,season etc.) and forces teams and individuals to act strategically ... like: One team having wind on their side, the other team plays against the wind. A good team would try to position advantagous with the wind or try to mitigate a disadvantagous position in other ways.

Last but not least, if implemented int the right way, with trees and grass moving with the wind, thereby indicating the wind direction, it would add alot to the immersive feel of the game. Nice particle physics would add a nice bonus to this aswell

[Jezbelle]

That would be nice, Micah. I like your idea too, Golem.

Now in a counter-response to some people earlier in the thread, I think it's important that the dev's favor realism in ALL aspects of the game when faced with the choice between realism and "balancing".

In my long experience playing video games, meticulous balancing has always dumbed-down games. If every class and every weapon is balanced, there is no longer any incentive for us to create our own unique fighting styles to overcome obstacles. And oftentimes, we actually prefer using a disadvantaged class or weapon because our enemies may not be as familiar with it, and therefore we're able to surprise them with something they weren't expecting.

In the case of archery, I don't see any reason to make archery "balanced" with sword fighting. If anything, I think 90% of players should pick up a sword. That seems only natural to me. This isn't world of warcraft where you get to pick any class you want without any consequences! While archery is harder to master, funny enough, it is not nearly as deadly as a sword. In that vein, it would be more interesting if archery was used only for strategic purposes (ie. raining down arrows before a large-scale siege) OR for specialty purposes, like a bandit raid on horseback.

But I don't think archery should necessarily be "viable" as a dueling class. An archer should not be able to go 1 on 1 close-quarters with a guy wielding a sword (like they do in Warband). Unless that was really the case historically... But it seems implausible.

[Gaz.Spencer]

I reckon you should be able to pull out an arrow, which, if un left would cause the character to be slower and less effective due to being wounded. Also, first aid would be cool if implemented right. Maybe you could take like 2-3 mins to apply gauze. A bleeding mechanic would seem logical as bleeding does happen IRL. Of course, applying first aid would mean moving away from combat.

[BeastSVK]

  Give wind, give armor ricochet 

[Rico]

With a "ding" sound effect