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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2016, 01:25:28 pm »
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You mean other than the 6-7 battles we had, 5 with high ticket counts; right?

Anywhere from 4-9 merc advantage every battle, and further, making attack with bird clan at 12:37 on halmar. 

In addition, the clear monetary advantage is now being shown with your UIF ally holding the other end of desert.

 This is exactly the HCE and strat was at end of strat 5. I'm done. I'm not going to record a dying strat.
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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2016, 01:33:43 pm »
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Sorry to see you go man.  I do understand though, its the same thing happened in EU with UIF.  Having essentially one giant coordinated faction allows a massive monetary build-up (only exacerbated by working with the much richer EU, thanks to their many more fiefs) and a core of mercs that show-up every fight usually assuring merc advantage and gear advantage in every battle.  The UIF usually rationalizes it as to balance an Anti-UIF, which never really actually exists - just everyone not in their faction.  Since the rest of the map is not part of one big blob just people actually having fun all with independent goals and fun little wars, there is never a counter-balance.

The only healthy strat is a vying between many small factions.  When you allow too much of the playerbase to group up into one conglomerate you basically kill strat because there is no way to actually counter-balance it, merc or gear wise.  You start seeing people get bored by the non-stop lopsided battles and move on to other games again, which only makes it steadily worse and worse with merc rosters and trading/gear.  Kind of sucks, have only been 2 good strats: 4 and 2, every other one only has the potential to be good if the playerbase or devs don't actively screw it up.

Especially with how small community has become since strat 4 (half the size at least), you just can't form big multi-clan factions without killing off strat with lame fights instead of good give-and-takes battles which are fun (really miss the epic battles with near equal mercs and gear, those were a lot of fun for both sides).
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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2016, 02:27:16 pm »
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To Kesh: other factions have no excuse for not trading as well. Despotate, Dwarves, FPF, Mercs, HoC, Etc, have had every opportunity to peacefully farm. Also the former leader of FCC talking about small factions and how they are best is hilarious. Besides the best wars of STRAT 4 were between big blocks, Tkov vs. Occitan, FCC vs. whoever

Anders: rosters are even or in most cases the enemies have more people signed. It's not our fault your mercs are signing and not showing. Also, most battles start even and you guys for some reason slowly lose mercs.

And I like how you two can be so bitchy but yesterday we had the most pitched battle yet in STRAT 6, a field battle that came down to 28 v. 0.

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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2016, 02:44:15 pm »
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Doesn't help that people get on to play and get booted because the updater doesn't work. Enough work to wrassle a couple nerds together let alone jump them through hoops to manually update their game.

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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2016, 02:44:38 pm »
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And I like how you two can be so bitchy but yesterday we had the most pitched battle yet in STRAT 6, a field battle that came down to 28 v. 0.

Caveat: With an 8 merc advantage on your side, and a rather nice gear advantage for half of the fight. Oh, and a double river crossing too.

That was actually the fight that I said that this strat is done. The raid against Bruttus sealed the deal(in terms of gear/mercs, not the raid itself)
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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2016, 02:46:11 pm »
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If don't herd nerds, you will lose.  Simple as that.  It's very annoying, tiresome and repetitive but it is clearly effective.  Way more effective than trying to have the ear of a bunch of faction leaders and trying to bend them to your will but not putting any of the work in.
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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2016, 02:46:43 pm »
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Poor Anders, doesn't have the heart or the chin for Strategus.
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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2016, 02:52:09 pm »
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We try way harder for mercs than you guys do IMHO, we have someone personally message people every big battle just to scrape up an even roster

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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2016, 02:53:57 pm »
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We try way harder for mercs than you guys do IMHO, we have someone personally message people every big battle just to scrape up an even roster

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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2016, 02:59:09 pm »
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Different people each time.

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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2016, 03:18:24 pm »
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Anywhere from 4-9 merc advantage every battle, and further, making attack with bird clan at 12:37 on halmar. 

In addition, the clear monetary advantage is now being shown with your UIF ally holding the other end of desert.

 This is exactly the HCE and strat was at end of strat 5. I'm done. I'm not going to record a dying strat.


HCE was a dumpster faction that coordinated attacks with their "enemies" for fun and fairness, then got dumped on by a single EU multi accounter.

GOBBLINS will wipe you shits off the map and create a memedom to last 1000 years. I honestly can't believe how terrible the resistance has been. You guys might actually make it possible when it shouldn't be.

the anti gobblins have so many bad mercs that don't understand how to do well in strat battles (Rest in pieces anders) maybe you should just quit.

Also, fuck you guys that claim strat would be better without any good faction. There would be no good battles if that were the case. Rosters would be like 10 v 20 everytime until everyone stops playing. Fucking whiners and liars the lot of you.

Edit: and don't draw any conclusions on roster support based on battles from Bruttus' bad crusader faction. People really dislike that tard (bless his heart for trying though)
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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2016, 03:27:32 pm »
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There's plenty of trade opportunities, don't tell me there's not.  When I see two 1000 man HoC armies marching with 3000 crates from their southern fiefs up to their northern fiefs (or to the factions who are also fighting us up there), I'd say you have plenty of trade opportunities.

As for mercs, I'm guessing if the crpg updater wasn't borked, it would be easier for both sides to get mercs.  I can message some old crpg players once in a while if I have a battle and grovel for them to join, but if they go to launch crpg and it fails to update, they aren't going to be arsed to manually update the game.

I don't know where the complaints are coming from.  Gobblins are at war with a good majority of the map, and thanks to some enemies who actually want to play the game, there's been some large battles recently.  My guess is that no other Gobblins want to have battles lop-sided with merc support, we're just trying to fill up our roster as best as we can (and it looks like both sides are having trouble getting a full roster).
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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2016, 04:04:09 pm »
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hi believe it or not i really don't have the autismal energy to sperg out a wall of text (i say that now lol), boy that series of battles yesterday evening sure took it right outta me.

See the thing is every single time on the rosters the last few days (although more intense at the start) the other side has started with many more applications than us. This makes us panic, with utterances of "OH GOD ARE WE GONNA LOSE A DANK FUCKING ARMY FOR NO REASON OH GOD OUR SPERGHOURS MIGHT GO TO WASTE RECRUIT RECRUIT" and exclamations to players we've not seen play actively in years like "HOLY SHIT BUDDY YOU GOTTA COME HELP US WE ARE BASICALLY FUCKED WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT"

Well as it turns out when Artyem revives Dracul and Raven from the grave, Arowaine brings back old-ass Occitan and other classic heroes, Daruvian is messaging everyone endeared to his shitposts (a sizable population, hard to believe if you're a real stick-in-the-mud), and when I'm out there at home, work, or school with more than a dozen steam conversations open at once, we fill some motherfucking rosters. As THE GREAT GOBBLIN KING WHOSE REALM WE FIGHT FOR said in some earlier autistic rant, our rosters have significantly more players of the past, real classic heroes.

And you know, I'm not really sure that we would do things differently if the rosters looked more even 4-5 hours before the battle, or if we were ahead at that point. Even while we're getting 5-10 mercs up by the very end of some battles due to disconnects and noshows on the enemy side, we can't help but get our autism triggered when we see our roster even THINKING ABOUT LOOKING like it is much worse than the other side.

To those pointing out a gold advantage, I'm gonna let you in on something pretty funny. Artyem's army was equipped entirely without benefit of gold sourced from EU. Damatacus is completely self-funded as far as I know, while still being able to reinforce the REALM. Noodlenrice's army was entirely his own garnered from NA trade. To be fair, I'm not quite sure where Assington's gear originates, most likely a bastardization between NA-sourced gold spent near the steppes and hybridly-sourced gold spent in the desert.

Basically, most of the gear that you've seen is a shotty slip-shod improvisatory operation masterminded and equipped between myself and Artyem or gear chosen and paid for entirely by the parties that attacked/were attacked.

Don't worry, we'll drop some shekels on more impressive stuff soon.

(wow im gay i said i wouldn't write a lot i was late for a test because i actually stayed up for the 6am battle just in case LMAO fam but it was a pseudoscience class so i smashed it anyway and now im on my laptop without shit to do)

I understand that strategus/cRPG is on a bit of life support right now, so I can't be as upset as I would've in strat 4 if my current enemies decide they've had enough and simply quit. Our position is dominant in terms of trade and current financials, but without Acre's lands controlled, proper trade can be had from north to south. We're not so omnipotent that we can really go fuck with that shit over there soon.

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We don't have significantly more ticket farmers than the opposition in my reckoning, and we don't have such dominance that we are the fucking Borg. Resistance ain't futile.

A bunch of us act like cunts and people seem to get pissed off at that. I would hope that fact would rile like-minded folks against us. You know how much fucking fun you'll have if you kick our asses? We're honestly not so good at taking losses, it can be a weakness of ours. Somewhat prone to bickering and internal breakdowns when we don't kick ass.

Just give it a shot for fuck sake guys comon

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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2016, 04:27:42 pm »
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holy shit what a fucking nerd

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Re: Strat 6: The Age of the GOBBLIN -Losses To date-
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2016, 07:25:26 pm »
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Anders, I must say I am a little disappointed. If the results we are seeing against the gobblins suck it is only a lack of fortitude and perseverance on the part of all anti-gobblin factions that is lacking. As far as I'm concerned, the battle lines have already been drawn and everyone just needs to man-up, put on their fighting trousers and get to work.  But in terms of this weekend's battles sucking? Well tell that to the widows and orphans of every Northern Dominion warrior who lies slain on the field of a battle. Look them in the eye, and say it too their faces!

Maybe we should stop acting like the whiny millennials we are and fucking get to work. So what if it is unfair? If Northern Dominion gets wiped well at least we'll go down swinging and be buried as free men in a shroud woven of our own mother fucking dignity.

First field battle ND fought against Gobblins, they had pikes, cav, and better bows.  The next two battles we fought, I made sure we had those things (even if I did kinda forget to add boots one time). Obviously the ante has been upped and we need to get moving.  If Gobblins end up taking over the map, we have nothing to blame except our own apathy. And if that's the case, then I say good, Daruvian deserves to win this shitty game/round of strat.

Also, I'd like to send a shout out to the fucking Free Peasants and those god damn dirty Dwarves for at least having the balls to attack the Gobblins in the field.




Major Update:
Following this weekends battles, I've determined that this strat is going to suck and am not going to bother recording anymore beyond what is already up there(which will be removed 6 pm EST). It's already to much like strat 5 and that strat was too long and too crappy.

Unless something major happens, I'm out of strat and not bothering anymore.

You can blame gobblin alliance for my apathy.
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