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What do you think about the archery / Xbow modifications ?

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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #90 on: February 19, 2016, 04:27:13 pm »
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Level 36, 30/18, 10PD, 140 archery. Masterwork Rokusun Yumi + Masterwork Bodkin Arrows.

Tried a bit of ranged gameplay yesterday and accuracy seems perfectly fine to me, even though it's not a pure archer build. It's slightly less accurate than before the patch, but still accurate enough. Damage is still a bit too high imo and for sure too high against cavalry. While playing on my cav character fake-Fuma took 70+% of my Arabian horses HP with one hit with the new 7req bow with a body shot. That's even higher than it was before this patch when the highest damage I received was around 50-55% on body hits.

The biggest issue right now is the missile speed. It's waaay too high making it even easier to just spam arrows at head height and wish for the best. And I wasn't even using one of the highest missile speed bows. Iirc the original Yumi was something like 38 missile speed (?) which always seemed far more realistic than any other bow. Now we're up to 54. If you want archery to require skill you need a lower speed so you have to lead in your targets and know where the pink dildo is landing.

Archery still needs a nerf so we don't all have to play boring shielderbots all the time.

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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #91 on: February 19, 2016, 04:48:35 pm »
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Notice how all the ranged complaining are furries/other types of sexual deviants (swedish, etc). Just saying.
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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #92 on: February 19, 2016, 06:10:12 pm »
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Hunting crossbow and Light crossbow are completely useless because of the new reloading speed. Every crossbow should have it's own purpose, right now everyone is going for crossbow or arbalest...

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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #93 on: February 19, 2016, 10:58:58 pm »
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Hunting crossbow and Light crossbow are completely useless because of the new reloading speed. Every crossbow should have it's own purpose, right now everyone is going for crossbow or arbalest...

Arb and crossbow where hit just as hard if not harder both completely different and useless in comparison to before.

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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #94 on: February 19, 2016, 11:41:29 pm »
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After playing with a longbow, there is definitely a noticeable change in the accuracy, BUT, About 68% of the time I can land a shot from long distance, from up close, well, that's a different story.

Overall I don't think archers have changed all that much, just takes a bit more luck to guide your shots now.
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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #95 on: February 20, 2016, 12:54:53 am »
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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #96 on: February 20, 2016, 03:31:11 am »
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Archer and Arbalester:
Review:

Archer: 24/21 8PD wpf archery 170
Can't tell difference for accuracy,
Dmg for my MW Bow (name pre-patch) is noticeably lower...the difficulty was reduced from 4 to 2?? My MW Tatar is now better quality...and yet the Bow still takes 2 slots?

Arbalester: 18/30, wpf xbow 170
Pre-patch my Arb's accuracy was terrible.  Now? No idea, don't want to respec and lose xp (my main).
Crossbows take a ridiculous amount of time to load, don't seem to do much dmg, but accuracy is better.

Suggestions:

Archery:
Please fix MW Bow's stats:  I'd like it to be stronger than the 1-slotters, but faster loading (slightly less damaging) than the Stronger Long Bows.  Don't forget, difficulty factors in max PD (Difficulty of bow + 4)

Crossbows:
More Damage pls, less loading time.  If I'm taking a minute to load, I'd like my shots to count.   Don't mind raising the difficulty a bit for all xbows, but 6 pts is too much, so suddenly...I'm thinking 3.  I'd gladly make the exchange for more accuracy. 

Imo, the xbows dmg/loading speed should be proportional to bows dmg/loading speed.  Accuracy + projectile speed should be proportional to loading speed for all range weapons, with a parabolic effect on archery, ofc.

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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #97 on: February 20, 2016, 05:31:03 am »
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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #98 on: February 20, 2016, 09:05:02 am »
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What the hell are people talking about?  This is a HUUUUGE archery buff.  One arrow takes 90% of my courser's health.  And every bloody arrow stings like hell.  Before it was a mere annoyance, usually hitting you right before you smacked that inattentive guy form behind.

Why was the change needed?  Were there not enough ranged in the game?  Last time I recall there were still shit loads of archers in every battle.  The nerfs never deter the people who pew pew.

While I have always been pro-archery, I'm giving up on my cav.  Within seconds I'm dead.

From now on I'm trolling with a polearmer in a fur coat.  All I want is strat ticks now, not to die to two arrows before I even get a gallop up.

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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #99 on: February 20, 2016, 10:59:58 am »
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From seeing what most people here are saying, you'd be doing a great job if you just put the things back how they were before.
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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #100 on: February 20, 2016, 02:32:21 pm »
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What the hell are people talking about?  This is a HUUUUGE archery buff.  One arrow takes 90% of my courser's health.

The damage to horses has nothing to do with archery. Its retarded devs that gave bonus to every ranged weapon against cav.
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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #101 on: February 20, 2016, 03:51:17 pm »
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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #102 on: February 20, 2016, 09:42:31 pm »
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You can tell from the fact that there are no archers or ranged left in server.

I was playing last night and literally everyone was melee. Also arrows did no damage.

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What a shocker, people are still trying to play the class they enjoy? Clearly needs more nerfs.

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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #103 on: February 21, 2016, 12:02:36 am »
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Archers are still a plague on eu1, at least
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Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread
« Reply #104 on: February 21, 2016, 12:40:27 am »
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Archers are still a plague on eu1, at least
well nerf harder then. Untill they cant do damage .
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