[Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread

[Nehvar]

Occasional 15/29 160WPF heavy xbow  using steel bolts (xbow/bolts unloomed)

I've played with the light crossbow, crossbow and heavy crossbow since the patch.  I have two issues with the new stats that really sap the fun out it for me.  1) The reload speed in general.  2) The "shot release delayed by up to half a second" effect , which used to be an arbalest-only thing, is now happening with the crossbow on up.

I can't really say much about damage, unfortunately.  It took 3-4 bodyshots to kill a average-build/average-armor player with an unloomed heavy xbow/steel bolts before the patch.  I imagine it takes 5-6 now but that is really hard to test on short notice with current speeds.

EDIT:  Accurate as hell now though.  110WPF hvy.xbow is much more accurate now than 160WPF was before the patch.

[njames89]

I've played with the light crossbow, crossbow and heavy crossbow since the patch.  I have two issues with the new stats that really sap the fun out it for me.  1) The reload speed in general.  2) The "shot release delayed by up to half a second" effect , which used to be an arbalest-only thing, is now happening with the crossbow on up.

This exactly

[Rebelyell]

In strat archer are currently super strong.
Good archers have always that crazy good kdr when best melee players get  like 2 or 3 kdr.

[Murmillus_Prime]

Today in the midst of battle I decided to reload my masterwork light crossbow... My target had already been spotted.. A lone heavily armoured couch lancer trotting around at the other end of the field, unaware of being in my sights.. Like an ape it rode in a cricle until a few minutes later it had spotted me... Woosh the armoured beast sped toward me and in normal circumstances I'd just about have my reticule shrunk enough to fire off an anti-couch bolt.. But no, after all this time I was still bent over reloading my masterwork light crossbow, like a frail old man trying to touch his toes.

[Lt_Anders]

Balancers don't know that slow reload speed on XBOW increases the Shoot delay speed as well.

Noob balancers.

[Mr_Sativa]

Played a few hours with my xbow 1h pole guy, 21/21 120 crossbow, 95/95 or so in 1h and polearm with 101 in both tot so to say. 6 shield etc.
He normally uses MW Crossbow and MW Bolts. Also hunting/light crossbow depending on what happening and if I go on horse back.

My input so far for you guys is: the reload speed is a tad overdone on hunting crossbow; personally I find it rather interesting and immersive with the longer reloads on the other ones - do know though I didn't try out heavy crossbow or the arbalest. The accuracy and missile speed is funky, but a thing that is totally off is this you reload the crossbow, crosshairs go down, you release to fire, you can even right click, and re-size the crosshairs and the shot will STILL go off about 1.5-2s after I have released it for the shot.

Sucks I can't use my MW bow because you lowered the difficulty, so it's worthless now. Acc is super funky as well on the archers, I only tried though for 20 min or so. I could kill and aim (not with my MW "Longbow" but with a new bow I bought solely for higher diff), but it was different for sure.


Hope this helps.

[Algarn]

In strat archer are currently super strong.
Good archers have always that crazy good kdr when best melee players get  like 2 or 3 kdr.

Balancing cRPG accordingly to strat battles was a terrible thing to do, is a terrible thing to do, and will remain a terrible thing to do. Particularly true when you know what kind of equipment player use normally and what they use currently on strat (40 is the maximum armor value you can find most of the time).

[Yeldur]

In strat archer are currently super strong.
Good archers have always that crazy good kdr when best melee players get  like 2 or 3 kdr.

That's probably down to green lightsabers

[Nebun]

its fun to have new bows, accuracy fcked and bad. Now its mostly luck. Even tho there are other advantages, i'd prefer before patch.

[Yeldur]

Balancers don't know that slow reload speed on XBOW increases the Shoot delay speed as well.

Noob balancers.

Also this. Never knew this, but this.

[WITCHCRAFT]

Oh my god all the new bows. I can't. My brain just shuts down when I look at the bows shop page. There are too many stats and I can't remember what the old ones were and it's just a bunch of numbers with no meaning. I feel like a grandma staring at 10 different sized glass rectangles in the Apple store. What the hell are you kids doing bawgawd

I'm glad that I have alts for every class instead of one high level main with all my hours of xp poured into it. I would be really mad if my "one guy" couldn't do his fighty thing anymore. It's exciting that all this new stuff is getting pushed out with patches left and right, but it's making a two day break feel like I've been gone for 6 months.

Next thing I know, I'll log in and find out there are 7 new kinds of arrows...

[WITCHCRAFT]

also here are the translations from Japanese to English for the new Yumi varieties:

Nisun yumi -> dumpster bow

Yonsun yumi -> baby bow

Rokusun yumi -> pretty good bow

Hassun yumi -> *sniper rifle sound effect*

[Nebun]

after some testing i've changed my mind - all is great

Those who want shootgun use top bows / those who want accuracy use shit bows. Main problem i guess for all ranged is to just trying to use to it

[HappyPhantom]

24/21

Archery = 170
PD =            8

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Still trying out the new bows.

I would ask we go back to old names though, or at least names that are more differentiated. This slight variation on the same, is bloody confusing.

Edit: I think Desire mentioned this - I feel like the change in missile speed and PD etc has affected the 3 years of judgement built to estimate where to shoot. Being high ping, I'd say I'm particularly susceptible to this, because I don't really rely on reticule for aiming (I can't actually aim it at ppl to hit them). It would be great if you could leave the original bows stats the same in this regard, and adjust the new bows appropriately around them.

[McKli_PL]

after some testing i've changed my mind - all is great

Those who want shootgun use top bows / those who want accuracy use shit bows. Main problem i guess for all ranged is to just trying to use to it

for me buffing missile speed is much better than lowering acc, with a higher Pd trajectory is so great and a very hard to dodge, Dupre flash sale plox we need looms for testing!!