0.4.3.5 , 0.4.3.6 , 0.4.3.7 , 0.4.3.8

[BlackxBird]

Realism and video games do not go together also a lot of things that you talk about caused by superold warband engine.

I also do not agree about lack of teamwork, good team even fave players often tip tide of battle. IF is really important nowadays more than ever because it reduce penalties from armor weight to WPF. Spam was never and will never be way to win anything andy decent player will swap any spamerd down with little problem.

Bobby what u just said is the biggest bs Ive seen so far in my entire life. Teamwork on the servers is totally dead and spam is the way to win. Those are facts dude. All those tryhards nowadays only run around with other tryhards or allone. Do u think the pros nowadays are good in teamplay? They all run today. Noone fights till the end. I havent seen any other retard going into teamfights like it is supposed to be: IF, PS, a shitton of spam and no fear to die.

[Simon_Templar]

Bobby what u just said is the biggest bs Ive seen so far in my entire life. Teamwork on the servers is totally dead and spam is the way to win. Those are facts dude. All those tryhards nowadays only run around with other tryhards or allone. Do u think the pros nowadays are good in teamplay? They all run today. Noone fights till the end. I havent seen any other retard going into teamfights like it is supposed to be: IF, PS, a shitton of spam and no fear to die.

Thinking the same way here.

erhhmm what? ur not froced in this game into anything thats why is so freaking awesome its based on your invidual skills , if u cant fight with 0/4wpf its your problem, if u cant shoot/trow with 140 wpf or even less its just your problem.

No No No its your problem. Because everybody should have the chance to pick any build he likes. And its not like in poland chocolate chip cookie reich that everybodies personality that everybody have to be the same way.

[Rebelyell]

Bobby what u just said is the biggest bs Ive seen so far in my entire life. Teamwork on the servers is totally dead and spam is the way to win. Those are facts dude. All those tryhards nowadays only run around with other tryhards or allone. Do u think the pros nowadays are good in teamplay? They all run today. Noone fights till the end. I havent seen any other retard going into teamfights like it is supposed to be: IF, PS, a shitton of spam and no fear to die.

Soo you say that you just go full ivani4 style and still stomp scoreboard? I can agree that there is little teamwork today but it is just simply the best tool to win a round.
It seems like we have 2 very different points of view on that topic.

[Simon_Templar]

I dont care about score at all. I would not bother when other people whould have the same high score to get valor as me. The Problem is now that always the same people get valor. And not other people have the chance to get it.

[Simon_Templar]

What about strategus? Will there be any changes that not massive factions and alliance cant be made. Because i dont like to play things where i dont have a chance against factions. Who war so insanly big that everybody would call you crazy for still try to fight against those.

What i would like to see in new Strategus: that i can put somebody into jail when i beaten him in battle. That he cant do anything on the strategus map anymore. And that the faction can pay ransom for his save return. Of course there should be some things like it should only be a price of gold what is payable. And also when somebody dont have the money. Maybe after like 3 weeks he get thrwoen out of jail so that you can still be a part of strategus.

Another thing is. Why not making it like that there are 6 leading position inside of a strategus factions. Where everybody can have different kind of tasks.

postion one will be like a diplomat. Who can make diplomacy with other strategus faction. On strategus map it means this. he also can skill abilities. To get more negotiating skill to make allies with other strategus factions. (like this not one faction can make a ultimativ big faction.) And also that you can improve your abilities. But not forget the neagtiv aboozing point of this. There should be happening after some time. Who can also decrease your skills. And that you can only have like 2 allies. Because other wize people could abooze make unbelievalbe amount of negotiating and raize there skill. (abooze)

Next time i talk about the other 5 position. But just to give you a small look how strategus should be.

With this system chadz tradeing system from strat 3 could also be implementet again. But of course there would be alot of thinking through everything that things cant be aboozed again.

Because biggest problem of the mod was. There was always things what could be aboozed. And you never can focus on fighting. And like to the mainpart of the game. (Combat system) What most of the people like when they play crpg.

[Simon_Templar]

At the moment we dont

Of course not. But it would be more fun like this.

[BlackxBird]

Soo you say that you just go full ivani4 style and still stomp scoreboard? I can agree that there is little teamwork today but it is just simply the best tool to win a round.
It seems like we have 2 very different points of view on that topic.

I dont want to be arrogant or something, but u know my playstyle and even though I can hardly block i was like topping the scoreboard 24/7. and hell yes I do teamfight, its just that most dont do it. People who are actually known as good players, for example spamwhore, are absolutely not trustable in teamfights. Most of the good players nowadays are trying to survive as long as they can even though they let a shitton of mates die in that progess. The worst thing is actually that they dont even feel ashamed cuz of that. Actually it made the game for me even better to safe my mate's asses, the bad part of that is just dying then without ur teammate appretiating what uve done or even retreating when u join a 1v4 or something. Thats why I like gay order and the russian bundle of stickss 100 times more than merc/barabe/amox and all those pussies outta there. When u have a pawiu/varadin/shitnick beside u, u know they are gonna fight WITH you until the end.

[Rico]

^ we'd need a Strategus in the first place

At the moment we dont

you should probably start forming your circlejerks and a lovely diplomacy section kick-off because it can't take much longer

[haxKingdom]

mfw update 4.3.9

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[Rico]

wpf sucks, gib If cuz I wanna be tanky dood

IF still reduces wpf penalty from armor. if you cut IF for WM and wear heavy armor, the WPF you get will be largely nullified because you have no IF. whereas IF would increase your net wpf AND give HP. it's really your own decision making that gets in the way here, simon.

@blackbird: quoted you instead of simon directly because you summarized his point nicely

[Simon_Templar]

I dont want to be arrogant or something, but u know my playstyle and even though I can hardly block i was like topping the scoreboard 24/7. and hell yes I do teamfight, its just that most dont do it. People who are actually known as good players, for example spamwhore, are absolutely not trustable in teamfights. Most of the good players nowadays are trying to survive as long as they can even though they let a shitton of mates die in that progess. The worst thing is actually that they dont even feel ashamed cuz of that. Actually it made the game for me even better to safe my mate's asses, the bad part of that is just dying then without ur teammate appretiating what uve done or even retreating when u join a 1v4 or something. Thats why I like gay order and the russian bundle of stickss 100 times more than merc/barabe/amox and all those pussies outta there. When u have a pawiu/varadin/shitnick beside u, u know they are gonna fight WITH you until the end.

Made the same experience here. the problem are the throwing and trolling characters.

But others, like Greys you'll most often find people come to try and help. And this doesn't need to be selfless, if a player wants to use me as bait/tank whilst they come from behind and get easy kills, frickin' do it man! If it helps the team win then sure. But running away like so many merc/barabe/amox do, that's just a waste

There are all french what you expect.

But would it not be better to change this with that weaponmaster. And give crossbows more accuracy. (Because crossbow didnt need any skill at all. Everybody could use it in medieval times)

Because like this way you would have less runners. Because you could simply not run away. Because you would get shoot or trample down by the enemy cav. Its actually a selfmade problem from you guys.

I can remember back in the days of GK´s (Great Khans) where somebody told me. Now Simon with much athletics they go even faster then me riding my horse. So of course you will not find anybody who will help you. When you fool people with satch stupid nerfs.

[BlackxBird]

IF still reduces wpf penalty from armor. if you cut IF for WM and wear heavy armor, the WPF you get will be largely nullified because you have no IF. whereas IF would increase your net wpf AND give HP. it's really your own decision making that gets in the way here, simon.

@blackbird: quoted you instead of simon directly because you summarized his point nicely

Loool when reading ur post I became a bit angry cuz I thought u just wanted to tell me how the game works I studied everything I found on the forum about crpg engine, did some math (ye we germonies r good at that ) and found the best build for the whole game (in my oppinion)

[AwesomeHail]

Thats why I like gay order and the russian bundle of stickss 100 times more than merc/barabe/amox and all those pussies outta there. When u have a pawiu/varadin/shitnick beside u, u know they are gonna fight WITH you until the end.

Hey hey no generalizing here, I often help people get out of trouble and I love teamwork with small/big groups 

[Rebelyell]

0.4.3.9 it is reall

[pepejul]

Someone can explain if throwable saracen lance is throw or pole ? I can use it with no throwing skills ?