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Nerf S key
« on: November 05, 2015, 06:06:33 pm »
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With the increased levels and higher builds we have these days, I have seen a LOT of agi builds.  Like, VERY agi builds.  Borderline-troll agi builds.

That is fine, we want diversity in the game!

The issue is we have these players wearing peasant clothes, with rocks, or daggers, or whatever, running all over the map.  Like, all over.  When they see a player that may actually give them trouble, the kite and kite and kite.  They S key backwards and dart in and out at inhuman speeds.  They run away, S key and dart, and try to stab.  Then they run away again.  They are chased all over the map.  It delays the rounds, and it is not fun.  It's kind of like the archers used to be, until weight of ammo was nerfed.

I do perceive this as being a real problem for the mod.  Yes, the builds are annoying to fight, but they are also ridiculous.  When there are 3, 4, or 5 players in the round with builds like this, it starts to wreck the fights and flow of battle.

I think we should nerf the S key (backwards movement) to help balance these characters and keep things "normal".  Backwards movement should be slower than it currently is. 

If you have a different suggestion, please put here. 

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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2015, 06:15:35 pm »
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Well, it is only a matter of playstyle, Some people prefer to be speedy and take the risk of being 1 or 2 hit by an archer, while others rely on hp and armor to score.
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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2015, 06:27:03 pm »
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Well, it is only a matter of playstyle, Some people prefer to be speedy and take the risk of being 1 or 2 hit by an archer, while others rely on hp and armor to score.

Yes, this is how is used to be. 
I agree, we want diversity and different play styles.  I mention this in my post.

However, with lv 35, now the trolling and excessive melee kiting is rampant.  Not only that, but players run and run to AVOID fighting, and delay the round.

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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2015, 06:31:15 pm »
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Is this EU or NA we're talking about?
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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2015, 06:33:18 pm »
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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2015, 07:10:51 pm »
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Is this EU or NA we're talking about?

I am on NA.  Maybe things are different across the pond.


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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2015, 07:16:24 pm »
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Well, it's different but also has a lot of similarities I assume. I've played on NA on multiple occasions but people were always friendly and bro-coding and such (wich is happening on EU as well). I did notice the amount of agi spammers though, quite high. With strat it was the same.

In EU (as far as I can say) it's quite ''balanced'' , a lot of polearms, a lot of 2hers and some archer/xbowers/throwers, but not a surprising amount of spammers on steroids. I'd say the average agi in EU is around 18 to 27 (and not that much 27 though, most melee players get the balanced build of 21/24 or 24/21/)
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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2015, 07:43:50 pm »
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It's not agi spammers, those are ok.  It's people fleeing...running to corners of the map.  There is always one or two of them at the end of the round (or middle of the round), leading a pack of 3 or 4 players chasing them delaying the round.

What is the point?

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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2015, 09:46:45 pm »
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no clue high af
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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2015, 10:31:13 pm »
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Noticing the exact same thing on NA here. It's just obnoxious and makes me not want to play the game.
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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2015, 12:41:39 am »
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You gave away their secret how could you.
If they nerf s key then they should buff a/w/d keys.
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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2015, 12:57:09 am »
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I love when some chump thinks they will play me by s keying me in a team fight and I just turn around, switch targets and demolish the rest of their team until they realize what a mistake it was to let me live.

Don't play their game if it really bothers you, counter their running by running yourself. Most of the time I will still chase them even if it's a bad idea, and if I die I know it was my fault for giving them the advantage.

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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2015, 01:55:44 am »
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So what you're saying: is everyone should have the same stats.
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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2015, 01:56:04 am »
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I rarely have issues with S-keyers (regardless of my current build), as chester said it's usually best to let them be and fight someone else or wait for them to start to close the gap. The real issue is all the 10+ athletics xbowers/throwers who kite around for days (using their W key, mind you).
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Re: Nerf S key
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2015, 02:05:50 am »
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Fuck your s key suggestions, I have no desire to be playing this shitty mod until the servers are reset, the lag is unbearable even with 20 ping.
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