Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?

[Grytviken]

Ah right, you criticise me for stating Assad is better for Syria than IS, Al-Nusra and other AL-Qaeda affiliates but you defend Saudi-Arabia's actions? I think we're done here.

   It seems pretty simple to me, if the majority of Syrians thought the same thing they would have sided with him.

Also I don't think the Syrian Army are the bad guys, they are just doing their job in a desperate situation. On top of fighting rebels they are also fighting the scum of the earth who do not have any rules of engagement, so of course civilians are going to be killed in the crossfire. But since the majority of the population didn't back Assad and he chose to fight barbarity with more barbarity it's not logical there will ever be peace as long as he is in power.

[Vovka]

So it's only trolling if I take things out of context with total disregard to the present situation or sequence of events, it's nice that you at least came to terms with your own standards of retardation.

I also much prefer Vovka, at least I know he is probably drunk and deeply in love with Putin.

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[Murmillus_Prime]

   It seems pretty simple to me, if the majority of Syrians thought the same thing they would have sided with him.

Also I don't think the Syrian Army is bad, they are just doing their job in a desperate situation. On top of fighting rebels they are also fighting the scum of the earth who do not have any rules of engagement, so of course civilians are going to be killed in the crossfire. But since the majority of the population didn't back Assad and he chose to fight barbarity with more barbarity it's not logical there will ever be peace as long as he is in power.

If the majority of the population didn't back Assad, how did he manage to stay in power for so long under such conditions? No wartime president would be able to survive a civil war for so long if there was not large amount of grassroots support for its government.

On that note, pro-Syrian and Russian government demonstrations have taken place in different countries.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=426_1445452186

(I'm not aware of the date or countries of origin that these demonstrations initially took place or whether the post has been stolen from another source and renamed but the content in the video pretty much speaks for itself.)

[Grytviken]

If the majority of the population didn't back Assad, how did he manage to stay in power for so long under such conditions? No wartime president would be able to survive a civil war for so long if there was not large amount of grassroots support for its government.

On that note, pro-Syrian and Russian government demonstrations have taken place in different countries.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=426_1445452186

(I'm not aware of the date that these demonstrations initially took place or whether the post has been stolen from another source and renamed but the content in the video pretty much speaks for itself.)

    He has a large group of supporters yes, that's why it's called a civil war. He had a large advantage from the start with a professional military intact fighting against mostly untrained and poorly armed civilians. Also Iranian and Lebanese troops were sent to aid Assad.  Russian intervention came when he was in danger of losing his capital city Damascus, most of which has been leveled in the fighting.

[Grytviken]

Also if all your bullshit accusations were true then why would the US conduct airstrikes in Syria against ISIS who were largely gaining LOTS of territory and beating the Syrian Army almost everywhere. The US has probably indirectly helped Assad more than they have hurt him so far. If the US wanted Assad gone at all costs it would have been easy to turn a blind eye and let them rampage through Syria when they were on a roll.

[Murmillus_Prime]

Also if all your bullshit accusations were true then why would the US conduct airstrikes in Syria against ISIS who were largely gaining LOTS of territory and beating the Syrian Army almost everywhere. The US has probably indirectly helped Assad more than they have hurt him so far. If the US wanted Assad gone at all costs it would have been easy to turn a blind eye and let them rampage through Syria when they were on a roll.

Indirectly helped Assad? By DIRECTLY supporting the opposition? My accusations are true.

[Grytviken]

Indirectly helped Assad? By DIRECTLY supporting the opposition? My accusations are true.

  Direct intervention would be Hezbollah, Iranian and Russian troops fighting on Assad's side, the US has not directly intervened, only Iran, Hezbollah and Russia have.

 Direct US intervention against ISIS has only been to Assad's benefit.

[Xant]

Murmillus getting wrecked. 

[Grytviken]

My neverending love for Putin grows every day

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[Murmillus_Prime]

el Rifaat, Syria (Oct.16, 2015) -- ISIS and FSA Hold Joint Protest Rally Against Russian Airstrikes

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a7f_1445036376

Obama Slips Up: "We're Training ISIL"

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d88_1444954071

US Cargo Planes Drop Ammunitions to Militants in Northern Syria

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c00_1444739747

Iraq - US caught in the act as it drops supplies to ISIS fighters at the Baili reffinery

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b6_1444569050

The Tragic Ending To Obama's Bay Of Pigs: CIA Hands Over Syria To Russia

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5c1_1444520076

Pentagon: US pays Syrian rebels up to $400 a month

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ca4_1445115376

FSA Joins Forces With ISIS

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=950_1445128860

Evidence of U.S. Army support of ISIS (Daash)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=921_1445277883

[Lt_Anders]

Those sources.

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A video game cargo drop...

Also, for that article: That's the Kurdish Controlled Zone.
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-10-15/u-s-airdrop-in-syria-ends-up-arming-the-kurds

Does this fit your "Proxy war" propaganda you're spewing?

[Grytviken]

I used to love liveleak until it got spammed to death with shit propaganda by paid Russian trolls

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html

[Grytviken]

Those sources.

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A video game cargo drop...

Damn, Murmillius down lmao , So many call of dooty black ops conspiracy theories in here.

[Xant]

Hahahhahha Murmillus goes full retard again

[Vovka]

Hahahhahha Murmillus goes full retard again

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