Can someone tell me what HX is balanced against.... a glass snail ?

[BlackxBird]

tried it. Was allways in the first 5. HX is still playable. but ye, HELL IT IS SO MOTHERFUCKING SLOW. I had 30 agi and a arabian warhose. Even donkey riders are faster ...

EDIT: They obviously removed the dmg reduction or the cap. I partly did one hit headshots (but only on peasants lol)

[bensai]

Bumping: BUFF THE HELL OUT OF HX

Have been experimenting with several dead classes as of recent.

Horse Xbow has been nerfed beyond logical playability. An archer with 6 PD, using a Difficulty 6 Bow does more damage than a light xbow based off the tests I've done with my pal.

This class is so terrible now, it would be smarter to use an arbalest, shoot it, dismount/reload, mount up, repeat. Trust me the DPM of this class is terrible. There are no upsides whatsoever, this class can MAYBE counter enemy light cav suggesting enemy ranged doesn't kill you/your horse first.

Horse Archer vs. Horse Xbow

-HA Pro's:
-Higher Damage
-Rate of fire up to x6/7 better
-Can carry more ammunition

HA Con's:
-Requirement of skill points in power draw means less allowance of points invested elsewhere


HX Pro's:
-Extra skill points for Powerstrike/IF/Ath , etc.

HX Con's:
Little Damage - My test pitted a mounted light xbow against a Gotland helm'd 24/24 0 IF guy and a headshot did maybe 1/4 HP in damage.
Reload Speed from a nightmare - This MUST be fixed if ANYTHING.



To put this simply, HX is a troll class. Fix it.

[Gravoth_iii]

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Bumping: BUFF THE HELL OUT OF HX

Have been experimenting with several dead classes as of recent.

Horse Xbow has been nerfed beyond logical playability. An archer with 6 PD, using a Difficulty 6 Bow does more damage than a light xbow based off the tests I've done with my pal.

This class is so terrible now, it would be smarter to use an arbalest, shoot it, dismount/reload, mount up, repeat. Trust me the DPM of this class is terrible. There are no upsides whatsoever, this class can MAYBE counter enemy light cav suggesting enemy ranged doesn't kill you/your horse first.

Horse Archer vs. Horse Xbow

-HA Pro's:
-Higher Damage
-Rate of fire up to x6/7 better
-Can carry more ammunition

HA Con's:
-Requirement of skill points in power draw means less allowance of points invested elsewhere


HX Pro's:
-Extra skill points for Powerstrike/IF/Ath , etc.

HX Con's:
Little Damage - My test pitted a mounted light xbow against a Gotland helm'd 24/24 0 IF guy and a headshot did maybe 1/4 HP in damage.
Reload Speed from a nightmare - This MUST be fixed if ANYTHING.



To put this simply, HX is a troll class. Fix it.

I was watching someone play HX, reloading took him like 20+ seconds, really pathetic sight and it made me kind of sad. Hated class sure, but it doesnt need to be destroyed. I miss Hate_more.

[bensai]

I was watching someone play HX, reloading took him like 20+ seconds, really pathetic sight and it made me kind of sad. Hated class sure, but it doesnt need to be destroyed. I miss Hate_more.

for real.

not to be gay or anything but one of my happiest crpg memories, sandy may remember, is when i first joined frisia:

i had no idea what class to play and sandy said
"why not be a my old friend and play horse xbow" and let me borrow his +3 barded warhorse and a light xbow from the armory

that was some of the most fun i ever had.

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"This is the class of an Internet Knight.
Not as clumsy or random as a polearm nerd.
An elegant class... from a more civilized patch."

[Ikarus]

look, if even hate_more can´t play hx successfully, something is EXTREMELY wrong with that class

you´d be even more successful with a 2h/1hshield/throw/archer hybrid

[bensai]

look, if even hate_more can´t play hx successfully, something is EXTREMELY wrong with that class

you´d be even more successful with a 2h/1hshield/throw/archer hybrid

thats the most cancerous truth ive ever heard

[Malaclypse]

It's so absurdly neutered now that I feel like I should just play it all the time out of principle, run away for 20 seconds while I reload and hope that I don't get shot and have to restart the animation from the beginning. I miss riding around with like four other horse xbow bros, some of the most fun I've had on cRPG as well honestly. +3 Arabian, like 10 riding or something ridiculous like that, just enough STR to use the Light Crossbow.

[AwesomeHail]

Buff for fun

[Gurnisson]

US_Cavalry approves.

[Malaclypse]

This injustice has been rectified. The Strength requirements stand, which means no more 10 STR light crossbow toons (could still do hunting with that old build) but even 15/24 is dang fun now that reloading is reasonable again. Hope that HX remains a viable gay class until the servers fall to dust.

[Torben]

US_Cavalry approves.

the first and maybe only time I raged in game. Encountering US_Cav on field by the river for the first time a few years ago.  good ol times :'D

[San]

0.4.0.0
Tydeus: Horse Ranged damage penalty(20%) and damage cap(15 damage).
San: Horse ranged max speed reduced to 80%
San: Ranged weight penalty made percentage-based and is now applied before the PT/PD/HA penalties as 1.5x the melee penalty.
0.4.1.0
San: Horse ranged damage cap removed. The 20% damage penalty is still there.
San: Horse ranged speed = 80% with ranged weapon equipped, 90% if sheathed or melee weapon equipped, 100% when dropping ranged weapons/using all ammo (may need to switch weapons to trigger). 0 ammo properly drops when using it all or switching/sheathing.
0.4.3.0
Dupre: HA damage cap increased to 35

San: Horse ranged max speed reduced to 80%
-Wanted melee cav to catch up to horse ranged so they can't infinitely kite

San: Ranged weight penalty made percentage-based and is now applied before the PT/PD/HA penalties as 1.5x the melee penalty.
-If I recall, I saw that a little bit of weight screwed with horse ranged really badly. I made it percentage based so that horse ranged can wear light and medium armor with less penalty to wpf.

San: Horse ranged damage cap removed. The 20% damage penalty is still there.
-Removed damage cap so that damage can rely on speed bonus

San: Horse ranged speed = 80% with ranged weapon equipped, 90% if sheathed or melee weapon equipped, 100% when dropping ranged weapons/using all ammo (may need to switch weapons to trigger). 0 ammo properly drops when using it all or switching/sheathing.
-Wanted to buff horse ranged / melee hybrids so that they can play both without gimping melee.

At the time, I tested with a built in damage calc to test the changes and remember playing skip the fun HX/HA on alts on crpg. Of course, the warband scripts are a pain to deal with, so I hoped that no unforeseen changes happened.

The idea that I had at the time was that kiting would be low reward and higher risk vs other cav, but you'd be able to get good damage with speed bonus. I also wanted melee hybrids to remain viable. I recall that the changes were in response to complaints on the server. Def didn't want to nerf it into the ground if that's what ended up happening, mostly wanted to prevent endless running away until it times out.

[Oberyn]

I was watching someone play HX, reloading took him like 20+ seconds, really pathetic sight and it made me kind of sad. Hated class sure, but it doesnt need to be destroyed.

 

I miss Hate More

 

[Gravoth_iii]

 

Having players on the server used to be fun. Besides, anyone on horse back was a bundle of sticks so you have no say.

[njames89]

Real men play Heavy 2h Xbow