A final solution to 2H and PO unrealistic spamming.

[rustyspoon]

I've just come out of being an archer so I really didn't know much about builds for melee at all, so that makes sense.

Then what is heavy plate armor for? People on horses or what?

Now Im more interested in making quick work of spammers.

Could anyone suggest some builds? Im going to reroll.

Most good players don't wear heavy armor 'cause it slows you down so much. Medium armor has better overall effectiveness for most people.

Here's some popular 1h & shield builds:

Str: 21
Agi: 15
Points converted: 2
HP: 70
IF: 7
PS: 7
Shield: 5
Ath: 5
WM: 5
WPF: 148

Str: 18
Agi: 18
Points converted: 2
HP: 65
IF: 6
PS: 6
Shield: 6
Ath: 6
WM: 5
WPF: 148

[Frell]

I only wear my full plate when we have x3+

Normally I wear

Nasal helm

Byrnie

Mail mitts

Iron greaves

Thanks for the builds, whats thew weight limit for armor? Archers it was 10 pounds and under.

[rustyspoon]

Thanks for the builds, whats thew weight limit for armor? Archers it was 10 pounds and under.

There's not really a limit per se...really just enough armor to where most people won't 1-shot you.  Shield users can also get buy with less armor since you're taking hits with your shield. If you don't care what your character looks like, you get the most bonus out of heavy gloves and lighter armor. Foot armor isn't that important since with high enough shield skill, you won't get shot in the feet.

But, just grab some armor that you think looks cool and wear it.

As an extra note, with 7 IF and a Kuyak I can take a shit-ton of damage and I'm still really fast.

[Joxer]

OP is totally ignoring different weapon speeds and what stats the characters who yeild them have. Some 1h guys spam shit fast too. And it's not always even possible to block and hit after that with a slower weapon. Take that from a long spear user

[Casimir]

Soulds like the work of Weeabo_

I suggest you learn when to attack back and how to use footwork to your advantage.

[Malaclypse]

A quick and dirty end to any spammer is a swift kick to the balls followed by a quick slash on their initial approach, let it be known. I usually pack a fair deal of WPP, and don't really have a problem with spammers. Even on my archer, who uses Iberian Mace with 0 proficiency, I rarely die due to low speed/spam alone.

[Kafein]

The real effective response to spammers is chamberblocks. One chamberblock, one swing immediatly after (usually spammers will continue to spam even when they are hit), spammer dead. But they are so difficult to do this hardly is a good tip.

However, I don't see how kicks can work. Even a noob spammer knows how to "footwork" (just cheap facehugging + turn, can't really describe that as footwork), so kicks will usually fail.


However, many people aren't used to enemies failing kicks on purpose so they don't react immediatly, that can give you an opportunity of striking back when your kick ends.

[Heresiarch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_solution

[Tavuk_Bey]

i say NO! fail shielder, try to do chamber..

[Punisher]

Obviously according to the OP, 1h spamming is realistic

And to stay a bit serious, 90% of the spammers have 1 thing in common - they can't block. Block 1 hit (and if they are midlessly spamming it shouldn't be too hard) and they're dead. As for situations described by the OP, if a shielder stays passive when attacked, no reason not to spam him till the shield breaks. I use a 2h sword, so medium damage and no bonus vs shields and many times I encountered shielders that just stay and watch me hit their shield 20 times in a row till it breaks, not even once trying to hit back.

[Joseph]

Get your  on dueling server and learn how to fight, you won't get spammed as much. It been proven that you cannot swing 2 times before the opponent, except awesome footing (maybe only 4-5 players in the whole cRPG can).





Oh, almost forgot, your first hit should always be to check the play style (spamming/feinter/...) of your opponent. Most of the time I get them on the first quick hit.

[Aleskander]

I agree with 1, that makes since.
But wouldn't the application of some sort of stamina system fix this and the fact that a sheilder with 8 points in shield and a steel shield be able to hold out against two 2handers almost indefinitely?

[Xant]

But what im asking is, is spamming realistic? No

The million dollar question is... is cRPG realistic?

[Frell]

Combat wise it does pretty good.

[Thucydides]

This is why i hate playing shielders, the timing is all messed up compared to 2h and polearm