Another school shooting in Murrica (Oregon edition)

[LordBerenger]

Luuung live nationalism and right to defend awrselves with guns from an evil government in the future that will go on 2 become a tyranny. It's happening markkk mah words. Any second now.....just you wait.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/609395/Chris-Harper-Mercer-shooter-Oregon-Umpqua-Community-College

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/active_shooting_reported_at_um.html

[Xant]

Yet another Gun Free Zone shooting. Didn't he see the fucking signs?!

[LordBerenger]

Yet another Gun Free Zone shooting. Didn't he see the fucking signs?!

He's 2 edgy trying to ignore the signs and warnings.

[Sir_Hans]

It's not even a gun issue.

It's about mental health and the causes and effects our society has on the mental health of its citizens... This is not a uniquely American issue, thought it does seem like we get the worst of it.

But if you go look at areas of extreme poverty where people can't even afford bullets, let alone a gun to fire them, we still have mass killings.

In Africa rebels have slaughtered entire villages with little more than machetes.
In the middle east they use homemade explosives.
In china there have been multiple accounts of grown adults going on Stabbing Sprees at elementary and highschool within the country.
In other places we have people using vehicles to charge into crowds of people.
And surprisingly I don't have any accounts of mass poisonings towards the aims of intentional death, but I'm sure people have done that as well.


Even if you were able to wave a magic wand and make all firearms disappear from the entire planet.
This problem of suicidal killing sprees brought on by mental health issues, society, hatred, ideologies of violence/hate or religious fanaticism would still persevere.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has zero foresight.

We need to look at countries with a very small amount of general violence (not just gun violence) and work towards understanding why there is a marginal difference.
For example we have Mexico where guns are virtually illegal to own as a citizen... and Japan where guns are also virtually illegal to own as a citizen... yet the violence per capita of both countrys is on opposite ends of the spectrum... we need to understand why that is and if we can move towards reducing violence in non-traditional methods.

[Grytviken]

This is a problem mainly with the younger generation. You shouldn't be allowed to own a gun if you are under 30 years old unless you have prior law enforcement or military experience. This gives more time for the psychiatrists and psychologists to diagnose these kind of nutcases, this with higher punishment for illegal gun possession would at least prevent some crime. This is a product of rap music, shitty internet-social media culture, too much television, horrible parenting and a general disregard for reality. There's too many emotional young idiots running around who think they are some kind of tough thug daddy gang-banger, and the media and entertainment industries encourage the uppity and violent behavior.

But in all reality, there's too many guns in America, and noone wants to give them up after seeing shit like this on TV, and I don't blame them.

[Sir_Hans]

Oh wow, I guess we don't have a problem if all those 3rd world shitholes also have mass homicides.

Even if it is a mental health issue, most of the guns used in these shootings are obtained legally, and it is stupidly easy to purchase a gun. Other developed countries don't face this problem at the amount we do and they have tighter gun control. Its clear as day. Its too easy for a pycho to purchase a gun and go on a rampage.

It's not the tighter gun laws that make those regions you speak of less violent.

Like I said... You have Mexico (a developed country), guns being illegal yet they have tons of violence and shootings.
You also have Japan a country with guns being illegal and they have some of the least amount of violence of any country.
It's not the strict gun laws that cause mexico to be more violent or japan to be less violent its the environment, the people, the society and culture.

The majority of these firearms used in US shootings were purchased legally, of course. If you can legally purchase something, why would you go and purchase it illegally and take the unneeded hassle and ongoing risk. Making ownership illegal will make a higher percentage of shootings happen with illegally purchased firearms but it wont stop shootings.


And I never said we don't have a problem, I said this isn't a gun issue... Because it's not, it's a mental health issue.
But I guess you need to put words into my mouth if you want to form some sort of argument.


Answer me this: You are an Obama supporter aren't you? You voted for him both terms?

[Jona]

If only clockwork were there to teach that guy a lesson... he'd show him what's up with his trusty blackpowder revolver.

[Bob_Ross]

This hurts my brain in multiple ways

[Sir_Hans]

Beta Males.

The new ISIS.

[Molly]

Out of a newspaper this morning:

- 45 school shootings this year up to now
- 294 "mass shootings"... in 274 days
- 2/3 of the school shootings happen outside of "weapon free zones"
- 2015 first year when more young citizens (below 26) die by being shot than by car accident

Clearly, weapons are not the issue here.

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Gonna be my only post in here. Our "weapon" threads never lead to anything else than calling names and pointless circle jerks anyway

[Vibe]

It's not even a gun issue.

 

This is not a uniquely American issue, thought it does seem like we get the worst of it.

But if you go look at areas of extreme poverty where people can't even afford bullets, let alone a gun to fire them, we still have mass killings.

In Africa rebels have slaughtered entire villages with little more than machetes.
In the middle east they use homemade explosives.
In china there have been multiple accounts of grown adults going on Stabbing Sprees at elementary and highschool within the country.
In other places we have people using vehicles to charge into crowds of people.

Yeah compare America to Africa, middle east and China rofl

[Laufknoten]

Lol because he liked IRA pictures on some site and posted something under the nickname Ironcross45 he now is a "BRITISH IRA-SUPPORTING NAZI FANATIC".   
They also used the brightest picture they could find of him in the header so he seems white even though he's mixed. Gotta love UK news sites.

[Casimir]

I don't think I understand american humour; I know its funny when a whole bunch of people get shot down but you guys should really stop letting everyone have a gun, especially when so many of you are such funny and clever people who just wanna get famous.

[Vibe]

but you guys should really stop letting everyone have a gun,

but how will they defend their freedoms!!!

[Vovka]

I BLAME VIDEO GAMES!