Cryonics and cheating death

[Xant]

http://www.scmp.com/tech/science-research/article/1859328/cheating-death-elderly-writer-first-known-chinese-test-subject

If you're not telling your loved ones to get signed up for cryonics, you don't really care about them. Fact.

[Leshma]

Just 300000 USD? Can we expect it to become cheaper in the future? Thinking about it, Star Citizen is taking soo long...

[Dooz]

if you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep your corpse cold, you're an idiot. fact.

Zheng Congyi, a professor of biology and director of the China Centre for Type Culture Collection in Wuhan University, in Hubei province, said the idea of extending people’s lives in this way was "impossible in the foreseeable future".

"No technology can preserve a human organ for a long time. That is why organ transplants must be carried out almost simultaneously on the donor and the recipient," he told the SCMP.

"If we can't exercise cryonics on organs, how can we hope to preserve and revive a head or entire body?"

[Xant]

Just 300000 USD? Can we expect it to become cheaper in the future? Thinking about it, Star Citizen is taking soo long...

Pretty sure there are cheaper options already. And it's considerably cheaper if you do it for the head only -- though then I wouldn't want to be brought back until they can build a super-human body for my super head.

[Gravoth_iii]

if you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep your corpse cold, you're an idiot. fact.

Can organs not be frozen down? Or is that just a cost issue, because if it costs 300000 dallas then i can see why they would chose to do the simultanious donation instead of freezing them down.

[Xant]

Whatever the case, the comparison is idiotic. Yeah, you might not be able to use cryonics on organs currently and get them back to functional, but the aim of freezing brains after death isn't to revive you instantly, it's to make it possible for you to be revived later on, when and if the technology becomes available.

[Clockworkkiller]

But if your organs will even last that long, is the question

[Kafein]

I cease existing every time I sleep, why would I care about cryonics?

[Xant]

Why not just overdose on drugs, you cease existing every time you sleep?

[Kalam]

The chances of cryonics working seem tiny. I can't help but shake the idea that most Drake equations for cryonics have inflated parameters.

However, it's a better chance than the '0' we're stuck with now. So sure, let's sign up.

I'm also considering throwing my money at The Brain Preservation Fund and/or SENS.

The amount of resources we spend for the possibility of killing people versus the possibility of extending life is ridiculous.

[Xant]

We don't know what self-improving AIs and nanotechnology and stuff we haven't even figured out yet will make possible in the future. Cryonics preserve information in format that is distinct from just "any" information, like, say, if you got cremated and all that was left was ash. Little chance of coming back from that, no matter how sophisticated the technology gets.

So what are the chances of it working? Who knows, but like you say, the alternative is literally 0% chance, and this is the most important thing in your life we're talking about - your life. It's not like you can go "oh, well, I'd rather spend my money on buying a car" -- there are no alternatives to "life" either. You need to be alive to have anything else. It's the baseline.

[Kafein]

Why not just overdose on drugs, you cease existing every time you sleep?

My body strives to continue existing as a structure. Even though I have free will, I use it to pursue the rewards that my body has set up for me. My mind knows what's up, but my behavior stays that of any universe-colonizing virus.

By the way, suppose you had the opportunity to revive people from the middle ages, would you actually do it on a large scale? Cryonics is based on the belief that people will actually make the choice to wake you up in the future. But why would they even do that?

[Leshma]

Because they want to live?

[Lars]

Eternal life for me!? For ever young? I would like to keep my body, or get a very OP one , better liver, or 2 livers, better organs  in general and internal or retractile testicles, everything improved please.

[Xant]

My body strives to continue existing as a structure. Even though I have free will, I use it to pursue the rewards that my body has set up for me. My mind knows what's up, but my behavior stays that of any universe-colonizing virus.

By the way, suppose you had the opportunity to revive people from the middle ages, would you actually do it on a large scale? Cryonics is based on the belief that people will actually make the choice to wake you up in the future. But why would they even do that?

The same reason Europe is accepting refugees right now? Societies have only gotten kinder with time.