Author Topic: Market fucking  (Read 4273 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline AwesomeHail

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 477
  • Infamy: 49
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Bishop
  • Blaze it nerds
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Mercenaries.
  • Game nicks: Hail, lol, Kankerhoer etc
Market fucking
« on: August 03, 2015, 11:29:08 am »
+5
As some of you might have noticed, the market has been destroyed, by none other than Dave and some other dudes who only trade and want to suck as much money out of people as they can.

The price of current loompoints has gone up so much now, so much that the average player will not be able to buy a loompoint.
Masterwork prices have also gone up, but those are still doable


what to do against these massive douches?

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)



Your binary primitive low capacity of thinking is not relevant.

Offline //saxon

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1339
  • Infamy: 181
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Bishop
  • I'm just to dam goood 😎
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Vanguard
  • Game nicks: Saxon
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 11:34:37 am »
+1
Didn't someone sell like 30 loompoints for 200k each? Whoever did that completely fucked the mods economy. Everyone is trying to make profit off them.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Arthur_

  • Permanently Banned
  • **
  • Renown: 557
  • Infamy: 148
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Basileia ton Romaion
  • Game nicks: Byzantium_Arthur
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 11:57:50 am »
+3
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Jackie who?

Offline Pandemona

  • Game Admin (trial)
  • ****
  • Renown: 321
  • Infamy: 38
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • We are all of us what we do
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Mercenaries
  • Game nicks: Merc_Pandemona
  • IRC nick: Pandemona
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2015, 12:08:37 pm »
+5
I think the best and most simple solution to this would be making ''Reforge'' option give us 3 loompoints instead of 2 per item. We have definetly lesser players playing this mod than used to and it effects marketplace aswell.

Marketplace is in pretty bad condition at the moment there aren't much items/sellers and when you are trying to find an item you need, most of the times you either can't find it or find offers cost you more than they actually worth. It's quite hard to find a fair offer in the marketplace. I'm not telling this towards anyone, this has been an issue for very long time in my opinion.

Changing ''Reforge'' option to give us 3 loompoints instead of 2 will give all of us chance to try different builds and different weapons more easily if people think 3 loompoints are too much let's make that option cost 100k gold or something like that. This might also cause more loompoints going around in the market and might even lower the loompoint prices, but i am not sure about the last thing.
Remember remember the fifth of November. The gunpowder, treason and plot. I know of no reason, why the gunpowder treason, should ever be forgot.

Offline AwesomeHail

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 477
  • Infamy: 49
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Bishop
  • Blaze it nerds
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Mercenaries.
  • Game nicks: Hail, lol, Kankerhoer etc
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2015, 12:09:55 pm »
+4
or just have 1 heirloom exchange per 3 days?
Your binary primitive low capacity of thinking is not relevant.

Offline Pandemona

  • Game Admin (trial)
  • ****
  • Renown: 321
  • Infamy: 38
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • We are all of us what we do
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Mercenaries
  • Game nicks: Merc_Pandemona
  • IRC nick: Pandemona
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2015, 12:15:32 pm »
+2
I forgot to mention that the gold increase per tick with last update probably had an effect on heirloom point prices but as i said, unfair offers in the market has been an issue for long time.

Edit : Thanks for making a thread about this btw.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2015, 12:21:10 pm by Pandemona »
Remember remember the fifth of November. The gunpowder, treason and plot. I know of no reason, why the gunpowder treason, should ever be forgot.

Offline Mlekce

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 454
  • Infamy: 367
  • cRPG Player
  • Remove kebab
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Vanguard, ex Byzantium
  • Game nicks: Mlekce, Sergius
  • IRC nick: Mlekce
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2015, 12:55:45 pm »
+4
It is basic of economy. Look how much devs buffed gold gain. More money you put in circulation, the lesser value it have.
There wasn't any lp in market for 2 days, only Routier Odo had one, i think,  but there was at least 10 guys who wanted to buy lp. When you have aggregate demand that is higher then offer - price goes up until demand and offer get balanced. I think lp price will be stabilize in day or two on price of 600-650k for a lp.
In long term they must increase gold sink because i can make 70k of gold for like 3 hours of playing crpg and that will decrease value of gold and increase prices of lp and items.

Offline Daunt_Flockula

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 870
  • Infamy: 71
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Rook
  • Step aside peasants!
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Pixel Paladins
  • Game nicks: Cock_Blockula Kunt_Blockula Daunt_Flockula
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2015, 01:32:17 pm »
+2
I forgot to mention that the gold increase per tick with last update probably had an effect on heirloom point prices but as i said, unfair offers in the market has been an issue for long time.

Edit : Thanks for making a thread about this btw.

That is indeed the root cause. It fucked up banner prices dearly as well.

You may have noticed that I am not playing anymore. All I do is make sure that my clannies can keep playing under the clan banner. During the latest banner auctions, however, shit just got fucked up. I guess it was 2 weeks ago or something. Usually, you would see prices as high as 250k and the amount would drop after a week. You could end up with a banner slot for 150k at worst. But holymotherfuckingdalailama, I have seen a persistent pricing trend of around 500k this time.

Just as you thought "Mod is unalive, who would even bother paying so much for a banner slot?", you see this outrageous shit.

If money isn't a problem like this anymore, do something about it. Maybe stop charging for banner slots, no? People like me, who aren't playing anymore but still have to tend to their clans, are in a tough situation when capitalism is so unleashed.

Offline Utrakil

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 885
  • Infamy: 182
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Bishop A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Randwig; Gerwin; Marketenderin; Fletcher
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2015, 01:59:14 pm »
+2
If you guy want to do something for the marketplace just throw all your items from the clan armoury into the market.
If you have to trade your loomed items if you want to try something new instead of just borrowing what you need from the armoury the market will be much more vivid.
Without armouries there would be hundreds of +3 vs +3 offers out there.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Kalp

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 750
  • Infamy: 253
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Bishop A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • Form ranks, you maggots!
    • View Profile
    • Kahhhaaargaar!!! Uuurrr!!!
  • Faction: Grey Order
  • Game nicks: Kalp_the_Grey
  • IRC nick: Kalp
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2015, 02:17:43 pm »
0
Loompoint for 800k  :?: :!: :shock: :?: :shock: :!: :?: jeeez it deserve a ban. Even with increased gold per tick it's a two weeks of very solid play.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
The goal of Strategus battles shouldnt be to deprive your enemies of players, but to have full roster both sides and have the gear/tactics/strategy win the day rather than lack of merc support.

Offline Voncrow

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 474
  • Infamy: 108
  • cRPG Player Sir White Bishop
  • No honour in retreat
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Sovereign Kingdom of Thirdarrel
  • Game nicks: Voncrow, Bane, Velcrow
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2015, 02:35:04 pm »
0
Loompoint for 800k  :?: :!: :shock: :?: :shock: :!: :?: jeeez it deserve a ban. Even with increased gold per tick it's a two weeks of very solid play.

I can make like a 100k after playing a couple of hours. Remember after a short break I looked at my gold total and wondering where the extra 100k came from. And if you want to complain about loom prices, you can put up your own looms for cheaper prices if you want. The fun part of a player economy is that it isn't any one player who decides how much something cost. (at least heirloom part of it.)
'The only people who might be put off M:BG by the current state of cRPG would be cRPG players, and we don't want that kind of scum in M:BG anyway.' - Heskey

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Zeltino

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 149
  • Infamy: 9
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2015, 02:43:02 pm »
+2
you can put up your own looms for cheaper prices if you want
Someone else woud buy them and sell them for far more, i learned that the hard way s:


Offline Oberyn

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1578
  • Infamy: 538
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Lone Frog
  • Game nicks: Oberyn
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2015, 02:59:14 pm »
+2
Inflation is obviously from gold gain being bumped up so high with last patch, not from 20 looms being put on the market, as others have pointed out.
Also, most people use the market very rarely and only because they want to use a new loom or sell an old one, and this is achieved much more easily by simply joining a clan with a large armory. Then there's the people for whom the marketplace is a mini metagame in itself, "only trade and want to suck as much money out of people as they can" is pretty much the goal and how they "win" at it. Using other's impatience and/or ignorance is the only way to do it.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Novamere

  • Duke
  • *******
  • Renown: 599
  • Infamy: 273
  • cRPG Player
  • Feed me your tears!
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Knightmare_
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2015, 04:48:58 pm »
0
Playing all day with a x5 for 2 day i can retire thats 800k for 2 days of nonstop play not inlcuding the other 150k or so id make from playing...............that is some unreal bullshit please someone fix this

Offline pepejul

  • Master-At-Arms
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1611
  • Infamy: 495
  • cRPG Player Madam Black Queen
  • PEPE INSIDE
    • View Profile
    • http://alkislarlayasiyorum.com/icerik/60166/pepee-pepee-cok-uzuluyor
  • Faction: Pecores / Krems / hobo in the heart forever
  • Game nicks: something with PEPE inside
  • IRC nick: Pepejul
Re: Market fucking
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2015, 04:50:31 pm »
+5
Allow free loomed stuff change and market will die...

I ve 13 +3 to change plz !
I LOVE YOU, ADMINS !

visitors can't see pics , please register or login