Questions about unarmed

[Johnnyfirs]

Hey guys

I've been playing this game for so long and I thought about trying some weird builds.
I got some questions about unarmed. I can probably test these things myself but if you guys know the answers, it'd be easier

• Does Power Strike affect unarmed damage?
• Does one hand wpf affect unarmed speed? (Pretty sure it doesn't but not a hundred percent sure)
• Does Strength affect unarmed damage?
• Does Strength affect nudge damage/knockback?

Anything else you know about unarmed that would be good to know? I'm rocking +3 Heavy Gauntlets.

[POOPHAMMER]

The only 2 factors that go into unarmed damage is glove weight and strength

An ideal dedicated puncher build is all strength, as much ironflesh as you can, with heavy gauntlets. Also yes, more strength will result in a greater knockback when you nudge someone that is holding an attack. Can make for some fun times if executed proper.

[Johnnyfirs]

Cheers thank you, will try it out!

[BlackxBird]

but allways spawn with a weapon even though if you don´t use it, spawning without one is bannable u know...

[Utrakil]

Do you more damage with heavy gloves or with a stone in your hand and 1h wpf?

[Johnnyfirs]

Tested it out, I dont really think so. Reach is smaller too.

[Nickleback]

Of course it does,there are some ppl in the game with 30 str who nudges ppl into the hell.Str and agi effects every aspect of your attacks.

[Gurgumul]

• Does Power Strike affect unarmed damage?

yes

• Does one hand wpf affect unarmed speed? (Pretty sure it doesn't but not a hundred percent sure)

Pretty sure it doesn't but not a hundred percent sure

• Does Strength affect unarmed damage?

yes

• Does Strength affect nudge damage/knockback?

yes

[Casul]

agreed, unarmed dmg is only depending on glove weight and STR, nothing else

[Malaclypse]

I agree, I don't think PS affects unarmed damage, just STR and glove/gauntlet weight. Someone had a thread up with graphs depicting their tests of nudge damage awhile back, and I found the post you were probably talking about where you tested this and Huscarlton posts a description of the formula going into calculating punch DMG.

http://forum.melee.org/beginner's-help-and-guides/what-are-the-exact-punching-mechanics/msg1043367/#msg1043367

Here's the nudge damage thread: http://forum.melee.org/beginner's-help-and-guides/nudge-damage-in-crpg/msg1160370/#msg1160370

[Daunt_Flockula]

How about the actual damage dealt though? Surely a full STR puncher can take down a nekkid fool alright. How about an armored opponent? More than likely, those punches would die out like zapped flies even on low-end medium armor.

[Casul]

How about the actual damage dealt though? Surely a full STR puncher can take down a nekkid fool alright. How about an armored opponent? More than likely, those punches would die out like zapped flies even on low-end medium armor.

I would say it gets counted as blunt damage since it has a knockdown chance (+ in native SP you knock enemies unconscious with kicks and punches, which is only possible with a blunt weapon), so according to this theory high STR heavy gloves builds do hurt any class.

[Malaclypse]

It would certainly hurt less the heavier the armor the recipient of the punch is wearing, think like, low PS tiny Hammer or moderate PS Wooden Sword, probably, when dealing with the highest armor tiers.

[Daunt_Flockula]

I can kill an unarmed/helmetless person in 2 punches. Same if they're in peasant gear.

3-5 good hits in the 30-36 range of body armour if that's what you mean when you say medium armour.

You wont do a ton of damage vs heavier armour, but even vs 70+ body armour you can stagger them every time if you're high str with Heavy Gaunts. That's cos it's blunt damage. And you can whittle them down or finish off guys that are injured.

So, very good choice for some trolly fun

[the real god emperor]

Formula goes like this;

((Hand Armor weight)*(Power Strike level)*(%8))/((Target Armor)*(Armor Weight)

jk I have no idea