Black Bird's NA Invasion

[cup457]

im glad im not sober enough to read all this shit posting

[Voncrow]

What I said was true of the faction the Holy chadzian Empire, you guys have said that the actions of your members previous to your forming was irrelevent, I guess that doesn't include attacks.

Sorry, misread the battle archives, although above is true for some of the battles tristan pointed out and what others might.

[cup457]

Lord Cup looked around. The smells was disgusting, and there were many bodies piled everywhere. "Too many bodies," he thought "many of my servants died today, too many." More of the battle were of Lord Cups enemies but his allies were piled too. On the walls, in the streets. Nova Curaw would not quite be the same and it would be a while before it recovered. Lord Cup stood on the walls looking at the sunset. In the distance he could see many people moving, maybe more enemies? However the fighting was over for today and since so many died, there was more than enough wine to go around and he had a quota to meet. Cup turned around, only thinking of the taste of the wine that awaited him....

[Schoi]

y u guys typ rly long stooped shit stoof?
me no wan 2 read dat shit, iz ghei

[Balikar]

The bezerks have done what, 2 attacks? According to the charts that confirms it. HCE has done 39 attacks. Literally almost half the attacks WOTN has done.

Given the number of your active player base, the number of your attacks is quite poor over such a large time base. 

[Jona]

We sieged Sungetche, Nova  Uhhun, and Durrin(like 5 times). So sure we've only sieged 2 castles

Don't go confusing what you've accomplished as separate entities with what you've accomplished as an empire. As the HCE, you've only sieged Durrin once. You never attacked Uhhun (save for a fief transfer), nor did you siege Sungetche. Maybe those things were done by Acre or the Starks, but not by the HCE.

[Bryggan]

lol, i KNOW the whole history of it all, if you can find me a post that i said wrong or incorrect things, id love to see it.

Starks are part of HCE? yes or no?
HCE ( fief wise ) is a empire built out of Stark fiefs that were gained almost ENTIRELY from afk fights. yes or no?
HCE ( player wise ) is a empire built out of mostly Acre players IE the majority of the empires active player base, is from one clan. yes or no?

Um, yes, yes, and I'd guess maybe yes- could count them I guess.  But at least half.

But Tristan admitted they attacked AFK fiefs.  They did it because, what the hell, strat was over.  But my point is that whenever I was in command, it rarely happened.  Starks as a faction and Acre as a faction are different than HCE as a faction.

And, yes, I know you begged me to reconsider.  And you meant me well.  But I wanted to do what was best for the game.  Fighting with Acre brought many people back to the game- mainly to try kill them.  But it brought people back.  And on average, the sides have been even.  And we all had fun (when we weren't raging). So I won.

[sJimmy]

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A quick history lesson:

Strat was supposed to end.

I was rebuilding my merc army when Goretooth of LCO attacked the third member of my 3 man faction, thinking he was going to reinforce Jack_1.  I went for revenge, but Goretooth quit by the time I got there.  We took villages trying to draw him out, and finally found him in a crime fief with 100 men.  I attacked and took his gear.

The Wardens of the North kept on attacing LCO, even though they were AFK.  I found that boring, so I attacked Acre, the only remaining active faction.

The Starks went on an AFK attacking Rampage, thinking strat was finished and thought it would be funny to grab a lot of lands.

Acre surrendered, and joined my 'Kingdoms of the North' faction.  We attacked Dutchy, and he surrendered and joined us.

We attacked the Wardens, the last strong faction (Starks were just dicking about).

Dutchy and sJimmy rebelled with big clump of armies donated by the euros, so I rage quit (as I promised sJimmy I would do).  I do kind of regret it now.  After that, Acre got kicked out of the steppes.

Starks start playing more seriously, get attacked by the Wardens while Dutchy declares 'eternal war' on Acre.  Starks surrender, I marry Not So Innocent Virgin, and I bring Acre, Merchants of Curaw, Starks and C-Bots into one empire.  We fight Dutchy, but with his weekday NTS and sometimes forgetting to change it on the weekends, no one wants to attack him much.

The Curaw incident happens, and HCE goes to war with the Wardens.  To make things more interesting, I bully the council into going to war with the Hounds as well.

SO PLUMBO, WHAT FUCKING AFK FACTION DID I, OR KotN, OR HCE EVER ATTACK?

And most castles or cities were taken with one or two sieges, except that hell hole Durrin.  And yes, we have always admitted our average fighter isn't as good as most of our enemies.  But we won some and we lost some.  And we had fun.

Plus we would have attacked more, but it takes a while to build up armies.  Especially when NA autobalance was fucked up and people couldn't handle more than two or three rounds before they left in disgust. Plus I was against the idea of people having to hand over their hard earned troops to other people.  Anyone who built an army should be able to use it.

Remember, we were trying to get people into strat, so we thought we'd try make it fun for them.  So we ran our faction a lot more casually- for us people enjoying the game was more important than winning.

Dutchy and I told you if James didn't quit with his BS, we would rebel.  Besides, he disobeyed your order and became a traitor at the handover of Nova Curaw. And you let the traitor live and thus we rebel. And the army's we had where ours. Nothing was donated from the EUs.  You are right we did have eternal war on Acre. But when HCE was formed that war ended. We told you that. HCE started most of its wars. They attacked LL, Squids aka Calamari attacked a village or something of HCE due to it once belonged by Squids, Breserks attacked HCE due its homeland but HCE got them back, then HCE declared war on HoC, and entered WoM land without asking and got attacked. Most of these events where transgressions that you or HCE started.

And Plumbo hit it head on the nail. You have an Empire that was built by Stark's that attacked AFK fiefs, And Acre has been almost wiped this is now the 3rd or 4th time due to factions giveing mercy, well Now they are going to get wiped. Its like they kind of had this coming eh?

[njames89]

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Dutchy and I told you if James didn't quit with his BS, we would rebel.  Besides, he disobeyed your order and became a traitor at the handover of Nova Curaw. And you let the traitor live and thus we rebel. And the army's we had where ours. Nothing was donated from the EUs.  You are right we did have eternal war on Acre. But when HCE was formed that war ended. We told you that. HCE started most of its wars. They attacked LL, Squids aka Calamari attacked a village or something of HCE due to it once belonged by Squids, Breserks attacked HCE due its homeland but HCE got them back, then HCE declared war on HoC, and entered WoM land without asking and got attacked. Most of these events where transgressions that you or HCE started.

And Plumbo hit it head on the nail. You have an Empire that was built by Stark's that attacked AFK fiefs, And Acre has been almost wiped this is now the 3rd or 4th time due to factions giveing mercy, well Now they are going to get wiped. Its like they kind of had this coming eh?

lol you backstabbed us in Kingdoms of the North because you are a greedy selfish cunt, and you didn't want to work for your gains in strategus.

[Dutchydave]

lol you backstabbed us in Kingdoms of the North because you are a greedy selfish cunt, and you didn't want to work for your gains in strategus.

That is a pretty damn hypocritical statement to say the least 

[njames89]

It is sad that you would throw your faction mates efforts for months in strategus down the drain, for a little personal gain.

I would say glory but it is impossible to achieve glory by the route you have chosen. 

[StonedSteel]

maybe...i mean, it seems plausible...greed is greed after all...but there is a flaw in ur argument, and it goes all the way back...to Kesh

kesh
unholypoly
dutch
jimmy
etc

there are people on this list that absolutely hate each other, and wouldnt agree on anything.

how many people broke off their relations with Acre "for reasons of greed and gain"

theres a post ya, way way back, of James presenting Kesh with a medal for all that he did to help acre...interesting how it all turned out.
then unholy turned out the exact same way, and said the exact same things about you james.

...what makes more sense, that there is some great james conspiracy and we all lie and make shit up about him?

or is it more likely that the reason different people are saying similar things, is because its true?

i used to get along with u...but u refused to see your clan for what it was, a bunch of trolls, \ internet bullies.
and idc that ur lads mock me for the shit i do, what u have to understand is some do, sugar for instance.

so, u have a clan of assholes, and a leader that has worked with multiple people, and every single one of those people, have said the same mean things about u and ur clan...i dont think they are being mean, and i dont think they're being greedy, i think they are telling the truth

and the truth is, imo, Acre is getting what was coming to them...

[Dutchydave]

It is sad that you would throw your faction mates efforts for months in strategus down the drain, for a little personal gain.

I would say glory but it is impossible to achieve glory by the route you have chosen. 

Jimmy took glory when he transferred Curaw to Bryggan and took Tulga in one wave in the final minute in arguably the most epic battle of Strat 5. Hardly what anyone would call "back stabbing" 

[njames89]

Long generic plumbo propaganda

No matter how much BS all the haters spew. Acre is a clan focused on helping people play crpg and get started, and being loyal to one another after. I get a lot of hate for leading this group, but I don't care. You will never get rid of me, and you will never stop Acre.

Jimmy took glory when he transferred Curaw to Bryggan and took Tulga in one wave in the final minute in arguably the most epic battle of Strat 5. Hardly what anyone would call "back stabbing" 

Jimmy is a vulture, like yourself dutchy. You could never kill us on your own. But maybe if you have everyone else do your fighting you can come find some rotting scraps.

[njames89]

No matter what everyone that isn't Acre has to say, Acre is perfect and blameless and much-loved by everyone

There is literally nothing any of us can do about the propaganda you guys hear, and whether you fall for it. Come talk to me anytime in ts.