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AKP is the best! Long live Sultan Erdogan!
7 (11.3%)
CHP roolz! Long live Atatürk!
6 (9.7%)
MHP ruulez long live Hitlér and gas the Armenians and Kurds!
3 (4.8%)
Long live PKK.....errr HDP!
5 (8.1%)
Putin will bring Turkey to Soviet Union 2.0 Russiya ))))))))) davaj davaj davaj XNXNXNXN XAXAXA
11 (17.7%)
Greece will take back Constantinople and reform Byzantine Empire! GIROS FOR EVERYONE!
12 (19.4%)
REMOVE KEBAB!
18 (29%)

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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #135 on: November 02, 2015, 11:50:58 pm »
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Well, seeing that Erdogan has been trying to get dictator level powers for who knows how many elections now, congratulating him with that wording is a chocolate encrusted "fuck you and fuck everything you stand for" in diplomatic speech.

If only I could believe just that. It would make things probably just a tiny bit easier. Still, all I see is that Europe won't ever give a damn about what happens to Turkey as long as its government serves as a feasible tool. That is the only interpretation I can infer from the whole thing.

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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #136 on: November 03, 2015, 12:01:48 am »
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If only I could believe just that. It would make things probably just a tiny bit easier. Still, all I see is that Europe won't ever give a damn about what happens to Turkey as long as its government serves as a feasible tool. That is the only interpretation I can infer from the whole thing.

I don't know how much the top levels of EU deciders actually want to help the people who think like you to change Turkey for the better, but seeing it realistically, there's not a lot of good options open for EU to get rid of Erdogan either.

I'm sure they would prefer to deal with someone else as well, but since the people according to appearances and despite the myriad uncomfortable rumors and facts around him still actually chose Erdogan, they will have to deal with him.

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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #137 on: November 03, 2015, 12:49:11 am »
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I'm sure they would prefer to deal with someone else as well, but since the people according to appearances and despite the myriad uncomfortable rumors and facts around him still actually chose Erdogan, they will have to deal with him.

Tons of vote rigging attempts have been uncovered and yet remain unpunished. Tons more than possibly weren't even spotted. If I had the energy, I would create an entire new thread and write it all for those who may wonder. Also, the counting process, which has always gone on way past midnight, was finished in just 2 hours this time.

Believe me, I could just give you a whole page of reported incidents. Enough to cancel 10 elections altogether. Just as I noted above, I simply don't have the energy to go translating it. The separation of powers, however, has long been non-existent in Turkey. This is to say, it has all been reported in vain, because we are all powerless. Can't do anything at all against the face of this madness. All this shit was was witnessed by designated European observers too. Hell, they even forcibly drove away some of them out of the election grounds so that they could do their rigging merrily and away from watchful eyes.

What do I mean? I mean no, he hasn't been chosen. Believe me he never has been chosen democratically. Is there some 15 million autists who do always and always vote for him? Yes, there is. That can't have taken him anywhere near where he is right now though. It is known very well by the EU. Briefly said, legitimacy is not what is holding them back.

We have been literally trying to defend the ballot box from the government, pawns of the national intelligence agency, their huge network of volunteering scrubs and the police for at least the last 3 elections. Needless to say, we have always lost this fight as simple citizens. The whole world knows it and all that is done is publish headlines "celebrating reestablished Turkish democracy". We are being ruled by a tool. And that tool still seems to be useful for execution of the global Middle East agenda. That is all about it.

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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #138 on: November 03, 2015, 12:59:48 am »
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You're an intelligent, probably competent person. Vote with your luggage.

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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #139 on: November 03, 2015, 01:14:51 am »
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Good advice.

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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #140 on: November 03, 2015, 01:48:26 am »
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Not really. Erdogan will replace you and the smart Turks with islamic, fanatic refugees. Atleast you personally might get out of the hellhole before Sultan Erdogan implements martial law in the western parts of Turkey as well and not only the Kurdish, eastern parts and then implements sharia. Where's Panos and the Byzantine Empire when you need em?
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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #141 on: November 03, 2015, 02:16:16 am »
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Believe me, I could just give you a whole page of reported incidents. Enough to cancel 10 elections altogether. Just as I noted above, I simply don't have the energy to go translating it. The separation of powers, however, has long been non-existent in Turkey. This is to say, it has all been reported in vain, because we are all powerless. Can't do anything at all against the face of this madness. All this shit was was witnessed by designated European observers too. Hell, they even forcibly drove away some of them out of the election grounds so that they could do their rigging merrily and away from watchful eyes.

What do I mean? I mean no, he hasn't been chosen. Believe me he never has been chosen democratically. Is there some 15 million autists who do always and always vote for him? Yes, there is. That can't have taken him anywhere near where he is right now though. It is known very well by the EU. Briefly said, legitimacy is not what is holding them back.

We have been literally trying to defend the ballot box from the government, pawns of the national intelligence agency, their huge network of volunteering scrubs and the police for at least the last 3 elections. Needless to say, we have always lost this fight as simple citizens. The whole world knows it and all that is done is publish headlines "celebrating reestablished Turkish democracy". We are being ruled by a tool. And that tool still seems to be useful for execution of the global Middle East agenda. That is all about it.

I've seen and heard some stuff from Turkey and I didn't like it either. I can only imagine what it feels living there.

If there was clear and presentable evidence of cheating in the elections and stuff, international pressure could be applied, but foolish moves would just give Erdogan more fuel. There's not a lot of carrots in EUs arsenal to dangle in front of Erdogan either. Heavy handed stuff on part of EU leadership would also be a political suicide at home.

That driving away election observers is really worrying, but it also means that there's no witnesses, whatever happened there.

Jabs and reminders of democratic values at Erdogan are what can be done, and they probably annoy Erdogan to no end already, if he can read the undertone at all.

EU and US can't afford to make an enemy out of Turkey at any rate.

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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #142 on: November 03, 2015, 03:08:59 pm »
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No worries. I am not planning to leave. You can devour them burritos for me Heskey. I will be here eating kebab and drinking my own tears.

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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #143 on: November 03, 2015, 10:53:57 pm »
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Don't feel bad for the idiots you'd leave behind, you will find many more idiots wherever you go.

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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #144 on: November 03, 2015, 11:11:45 pm »
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No worries. I am not planning to leave. You can devour them burritos for me Heskey. I will be here eating kebab and drinking my own tears.

U can mix ur tears with some Raki
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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #145 on: November 03, 2015, 11:53:23 pm »
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Don't feel bad for the idiots you'd leave behind, you will find many more idiots wherever you go.

At this point, I couldn't care any less about the idiots. I know very well that there will come a day when they will terribly regret having proudly marched towards their own country's doom. I will be there to piss on their graves.

U can mix ur tears with some Raki

I could never get used to drinking that shit. It has a terrible aftertaste. So terrible that I have to chug down a lot of fermented turnip juice afterwards to wipe it off of my palate. I can use vodka instead though. That one I like better.

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Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« Reply #146 on: November 04, 2015, 01:47:17 am »
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In the seventeenth century, the Muslim chronicler Abu’l Ghazi wrote: “Under the reign of Genghis Khan, all the country between Iran and the land of the Turks enjoyed such a peace that a man might have journeyed from sunrise to sunset with a golden platter on his head without suffering the least violence from anyone.”
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« Reply #147 on: November 04, 2015, 10:00:15 am »
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[...] I can use vodka instead though. That one I like better.
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« Reply #148 on: November 04, 2015, 11:15:19 am »
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« Reply #149 on: November 04, 2015, 12:54:32 pm »
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haha funny because he drink wodka ))

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