Fallout 4

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I don't think it's promising that a highly touched up and cinematic announcement trailer looks as bad as F3 animation and graphics wise.

Are you sure? Fallout 3 didn't even have shadows.

[Xant]

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I was trying to figure out which game the second screen is, I was thinking Sims 2, then maybe some old GTA... but it's from the F4 trailer, isn't it?

[//saxon]

I was trying to figure out which game the second screen is, I was thinking Sims 2, then maybe some old GTA... but it's from the F4 trailer, isn't it?

For once Xant i can actually be on the same level as you here and i know what you're talking about. But i guarantee it won't look bad when the game releases.

[Thovex]

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Doesn't look like it's made for PS3/Xbox 360 tbh.

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I'm not gonna complain about graphics from a trailer lmao. And even if they are not amazing - easy mods.

[Xant]

Yeah and even if the gameplay sucks - mods. Even if the story is crap - well there's mods. And if they screw up the UI? Mods.

[Thovex]

ur the one complaining about graphics. my point was about graphics.

[Algarn]

That's a pessimistic view there, they might have learned some things about how to make a good gameplay, story, and UI after that much time.

[Xant]

ur the one complaining about graphics. my point was about graphics.

Yes? And? My point obviously is that "mods will fix it" isn't a valid counter-argument or a defense for the state of the graphics. It's not the modders' job to fix the graphics. Or the same thing could be said about everything, even if the game is complete garbage "well mods will fix it."

And Algarn, I wasn't implying the gameplay, story and UI will suck. But if it turns out they suck, then saying "mods will take care of it" would be just as stupid as talking about mods fixing graphics years before the game is even released.

[DaveUKR]

Well, honestly I didn't use much of mods when I played Beth games (at first I finished them without mods at all and enjoyed it, then I replayed Skyrim, F3 and FNV w/ them). The only mods that I used were pretty much hardcore mods adding some certain realism. So when you say UI sucks - I say fuck UI, the less the better.

[LordBerenger]

Well, honestly I didn't use much of mods when I played Beth games (at first I finished them without mods at all and enjoyed it, then I replayed Skyrim, F3 and FNV w/ them). The only mods that I used were pretty much hardcore mods adding some certain realism. So when you say UI sucks - I say fuck UI, the less the better.

How can u play Fallout? Aren't u busy dodging supreme leader Pootin and Sovijeeet Oonion 2.0 and their soldiers? )))))

[Algarn]

Yes? And? My point obviously is that "mods will fix it" isn't a valid counter-argument or a defense for the state of the graphics. It's not the modders' job to fix the graphics. Or the same thing could be said about everything, even if the game is complete garbage "well mods will fix it."

And Algarn, I wasn't implying the gameplay, story and UI will suck. But if it turns out they suck, then saying "mods will take care of it" would be just as stupid as talking about mods fixing graphics years before the game is even released.

One can not predict the future obviously, I think Bethesda will do a good job and mods will fill their part of work for once, being optional. I respect a lot modders for providing an enhanced gameplay compared to the vanilla version Bethesda is offering to us players on games like Oblivion, Skirim, FO3/NV. I was looking for a survival/hard experience that wasn't included in the games. This being said, as I wrote above, I just hope like you that the game won't stay on these graphics, and I also hope the gameplay will be have some kind of extremely hardcore mode based on survival and tactical choices about who you should fight or not, so I don't have to mod the shit out of it.

And Dave is training for the WW3 and after in his free time.

[Golem]

I hope you play the dog..

[Xant]

Well, honestly I didn't use much of mods when I played Beth games (at first I finished them without mods at all and enjoyed it, then I replayed Skyrim, F3 and FNV w/ them). The only mods that I used were pretty much hardcore mods adding some certain realism. So when you say UI sucks - I say fuck UI, the less the better.

When people talk about UI sucking it's not because they think there's "not enough UI"...

[Algarn]

When people talk about UI sucking it's not because they think there's "not enough UI"...

Some people are hardcore, while some want their character to be a machine, with no need of water, food, or sleep, immune to diseases, etc.

[//saxon]

Each to their own. But having a discussion on how shit the game will be, when there isn't even any game play of it yet. That's just ignorant and doesn't make sense.

Morrowind; 10/10 Countless awards.
Oblivion; 10/10 Countless awards.
Fallout 1 2 and 3; 10/10 Countless awards.
Skyrim; 10/10 Countless awards.

And now all of a sudden before any game play what so ever, This "looks" like it's gonna be a disappointment. No, not a fucking chance.