Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]

[pogosan]

[Asheram]

(click to show/hide)

Quentyn & co tried to steal one of the dragons, which didn't want to be stolen so he turned quentyn into kentucky fried dornishman. He was also the only one that happened to as well, Daenyris never fed anyone to her dragon.
Did you mention that Stannis' army never made it to winterfell but was stranded in a blizzard and starving? Or Euron 'Crowseye' Greyjoy's  take over of the iron islands and his magical totem that let's the holder control a dragon?

[Xant]

No need for spoiler tags when the thread title says SPOILERS. Especially now that anyone accidentally opening it will have to scroll down a bit to see the actual spoilers.

[Richyy]

Gandalf die

(click to show/hide)

oh wait

[Moncho]

So how do you guys reckon Jon will be resurrected after his stabbing?
Melisandre? As a wight? Will he become an Other leader? Will he warg into Ghost in the interim?

[pogosan]

[Xant]

If GRRM REALLY kills Jon Snow, he's doing a really bad move. Pretty much the last "good character" left.

[Asheram]

If GRRM REALLY kills Jon Snow, he's doing a really bad move. Pretty much the last "good character" left.

"Jon's presence in the forthcoming volume The Winds of Winter is uncertain; when asked by Entertainment Weekly "Why did you kill Jon Snow?", author Martin responded "Oh, you think he’s dead, do you?"[6]"
http://www.ew.com/article/2011/07/21/dance-with-dragons-shocking-twist-g

[Asheram]

So how do you guys reckon Jon will be resurrected after his stabbing?
Melisandre? As a wight? Will he become an Other leader? Will he warg into Ghost in the interim?

(click to show/hide)

"According to the prophecy recounted by Melisandre, after a long summer, Azor Ahai will be reborn amidst smoke and salt wielding the flaming sword Lightbringer to defend the world from R'hllor's nemesis, the Other. While Melisandre is certain Stannis Baratheon is Azor Ahai, others are not so sure."

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Azor_Ahai/Theories#Jon_Snow

"Jon's wounds smoke while Bowen Marsh cries, providing the prophecised salt, and Ser Patrek's bloody, star laden heraldry is in the air above.[5]
 When Melisandre looks into her fires for Azor Ahai, she sees only things to do with Jon or snow, which he thinks must just be ash but she sees a possible connection to Jon.[6]
Jon Snow has a dream where he fights the Others with a red sword burning in his hand.[7]
 If having the Blood of the Dragon is a prerequisite, if Jon's father is truly Rhaegar, Jon would satisfy that prerequisite. He would be the grandson of Aerys and Rhaella and thus come from their line.
 Jon chose his duty to the Night's Watch over his love for Ygritte. He indirectly caused her death by warning Castle Black of the incoming wildling raid. Similar to Azor Ahai sacrificing Nissa Nissa to complete Lightbringer."

I think (hope) Jon is one of the dragon riders and Melisandre knows it. That would explain his "power" and the fact red witch told him about her plans.

There are also many people arguing about Bran joining the dark side but in Duncan and Egg's adventures weirdo with crow mark was doing everything for Westeros still no one liked him (very much like Varys). So I think he'll teach little disabled wolfie how to help fighting against frozen bitches.

Bran becomes a tree.

 EDIT  So is anyone going to mention that Beric Dondarion gave his last resurrection to Catelyn Stark?

[the real god emperor]

The Targaryen guy Aegon can't actually be the prince who was promised , so his conquest will eventually fail. However , Jon Snow is the real heir to the Iron Throne , as the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna.

[pogosan]

[Moncho]

Unless there was a secret marriage, Jon would still be an unlegitimised bastard, no matter whether Ned's or Rhaegar's, and who would legitimise him? Only kings can do that, Stannis or Daenerys most likely won't, same for Tommen. Only king that may have interest in legitimising him was Robb, and it may be in his will, but that would most likely be as a Stark son of Eddard, not a Targaryen, hence no claim to the Iron Throne (to the North yes, but thats a different matter).

My guess is that he will die or become some guerrilla leader when the Wall goes down (perhaps get wighted), but won't be the ultimate hero/AA/TPTWP. That role is for Jaime imo (if there is going to be someone who fulfils it), would be a nice final to a redemption arc, whereas Jon is more about sacrifice (love for duty, image for information, traditions for survival, etc).

[Xant]

Who would actually care about whether he is "legitimised" or not?

[pogosan]

[ARN_]

Unless there was a secret marriage, Jon would still be an unlegitimised bastard, no matter whether Ned's or Rhaegar's, and who would legitimise him? Only kings can do that, Stannis or Daenerys most likely won't, same for Tommen. Only king that may have interest in legitimising him was Robb, and it may be in his will, but that would most likely be as a Stark son of Eddard, not a Targaryen, hence no claim to the Iron Throne (to the North yes, but thats a different matter).

My guess is that he will die or become some guerrilla leader when the Wall goes down (perhaps get wighted), but won't be the ultimate hero/AA/TPTWP. That role is for Jaime imo (if there is going to be someone who fulfils it), would be a nice final to a redemption arc, whereas Jon is more about sacrifice (love for duty, image for information, traditions for survival, etc).

Wouldn't be that surprising if they got married as Targaryens have been known to marrying more then one women