RAIDS?!?!?!

[Voncrow]

I looked up all raids within NA during this strat.

Out of 88 battles
2 were Acre Trade Federation
1 from independent Albus
1 from independent Delson
1 from independent Blue
6 from House Stark
11 from 1 man murderboner (unrelated)
3 from Crusaders of Acre

This equates to 14 raids from current members of your faction, out of 88 total raids this strat. That is nearly 16% of the total raids, and your faction holds the greatest percentage of any. So don't go saying you've never raided.

Out of more boredom I checked to see how much you guys have been raided, between your members it was 4 plus the up and coming one is 5. You've raided 14 times yet have only been raided 5 times. Seems to be a big gap, and so you know only 3 of those 14 raids were done on squids. So you've raided at least 11 times on none "afk" factions.

You can go around saying that wasn't the HCE, but you should know that when you take a in a faction into yours, that you adopt their history. You've accepted that your faction has done what stark has done and what acre has done, and that you have their friends and their enemies. You can say your faction isn't acre, or that they aren't stark, but the fact is they are. Your HCE is one big mega faction of Stark, Acre and the 13 Knights, and you've all adopted the history and responsibilities of each other. You are acre, get over it.

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

I'm seeing 4 against the Squids, not 3. And no shit, the faction with the most members probably holds the most of everything, including battles and sieges.

[Bryggan]

No raids were committed under my leadership.  We would rather people use their ticks to field armies than play NA1 forever just to have men in their castles, leading to no extra ticks for war.  For then it will become a trading simulator as people spend all their efforts keeping crime down and no one will have time for war.

There was no raiding when I attacked Acre, there was no raiding when I attacked Go Do the Dishes, there was no raiding when I fought the Wardens.  Dutchy agrees with no raiding, despite all of fiefs having large garrisons, because he knows that will make strat very boring for everyone.  So whatever people did in the past in their own factions is no business of mine, the faction that I am in disapproves of raiding.

Plus i was unaware the Berserks were going to go to war with us, otherwise I would have said something.  I don't get all hot and bothered about 'no declaration of war', but yes, we did sort of make our own rules- with Acre, the Wardens and the Legionnaires.   But we didn't do it to gain an advantage, but to make the game better for everyone.

So, unless you hate battles, support us in getting rid of raids.

[Voncrow]

HCE did raiding, quotes House Stark. "Most of their fiefs" Quotes two raids and we have over 45 fiefs. Somethings off here...

HCE didn't do raiding, there's not enough evidence. Although your right about the 4, they separate a battle by starks from the others on my search for some reason. On another note, we told you we be attacking you until we had Kelredan, Iberian and Tahlberl. We told this to you in ts and in steam, I didn't realize that wasn't enough. I mean Arms is a part of our strat faction and he attacked Kelredan, I told Albus a few weeks in advance about the attack.

[mcdeath]

I seriously regret posting in this thread. TL;DR

[Albus]

Well, I suppose it was stupid of me to think that you wouldn't raid. We organized the first siege and I atempted to even out the rosters to make it a good battle (You accepted like 7 more people though) And I was thinking that maybe your faction was going to be the kind that sets up battles to make sure everyone will be available. I knew you were going to keep attacking Kelredan but it would appear I made the stupid decision of  assuming that you were going to siege the castle. I went up north a tad bit to grab some SND so my good pal Sitvek could do some trading and on my way back from scoopin' up the good stuff, I found my castle to have been raided. After talking to you on Steam you said that you do agree raids are scummy and that you didn't know about it because you were Lumettas (Insert title that I can't remember here) So I thought "Hey! Maybe I can reinforce the castle so I can defend, although I will probably lose most of my men to crime although some may live."  As I was quick marching over there you atempted to intercept me with your unarmed army so I could not reinforce, and as I would lose too many troops from crime I decided not to. So the moral of the story is to never assume people are nice (Made that mistake already from trying to even out the rosters), never trust what most people say, and never leave your castle. Enjoy my gear

[Bryggan]

I had suggested to the Wardens during the War of the North that raids might make the game more interesting, but we both very quickly realized it would suck in the long run.

Raids will just mean more fief transfers.  No one will put gear in the castles, and rely on people being nearby- which with a lot of traders running around keeping crime down might not be too hard for us.  But the smaller factions will now be tied to their fiefs, and all their ticks will go to the garrison.  If they throw 500 men in a castle, people will raid it rather than siege it, kill the garrison, then slaughter the peasants.

I can change my orders to my people.  We can pull all of our gear out of any fief without a garrison, and rely on our local traders to either reinforce it, or retake it if it is a crime fief.  It just means lots of boring peasant battles.

[Sharpe]

It just means lots of boring peasant battles.

I don't know about you, but peasant battles just seem to be the most fun to me. Don't know why.

[mcdeath]

I don't know about you, but peasant battles just seem to be the most fun to me. Don't know why.

Same

[Lumetta]

The sacred lands of the Berserks will be taken by any means necessary. These were never "your" Fiefs

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

The sacred lands of the Berserks will be taken by any means necessary. These were never "your" Fiefs

Thats why we own them and will continue to ;)

[Jona]

I don't know about you, but peasant battles just seem to be the most fun to me. Don't know why.

Yeah peasant fights are fun, but full plate vs. peasants, not as much. Having epic last stands can sometimes be awesome, but more often than not after just a couple minutes the peasants are already getting spawnraped at their last flag.

[Bryggan]

The sad thing is that it will be plate vs tunics most of the time.  The problem is the low population of strat- which does seem to be growing, thankfully.  Still, given the amount of ticks we are generating, it seems a shame not to be able to use the population in fighting.  Should you take Kelreden, the few of you probably could hold it and garrison it.  Then spend the rest of strat maintaining it (if this strat ever ends).

But wouldn't you rather raise armies and expand, knowing that if we were to try retake Kelredan you have a 1000 free troops in there, and any gear you left there is safe from theft.

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Lets not kid ourselves here, most of The Holy chadzian Empire fiefs were taken the same way.

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THIS JUST IN! MIND_CALMARI IS A HYPOCRITE AS WELL!

[Bryggan]

Tsk tsk, Tristan.  Let's not stoop to their level.  The past is the past.