Shield skill requires STR instead of AGI, and Crossbows require powerdraw.

[Panos_]

Can we give a try to those two tweaks please?


Switch the requirement for the shield skill to STR instead of AGI, and add Power Draw to crossbows aswell.


Thanks.

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Why the fuck would a crossbow require power draw?

[Panos_]

Why the fuck would a crossbow require power draw?

Why the fuck not?

[Siiem]

Why the fuck not?

Because you use either your body or a crank to draw it.

[Grumbs]

Why the fuck would a crossbow require power draw?

Because XBows are the only thing in the game with 0 requirements. You don't even need to dedicate all your WPF into them. While other builds might need to sacrifice something for their ranged ability for the sake of balance, xbowers lose next to nothing

[witchkun]

Switch the requirement for the shield skill to STR instead of AGI

and you will get a bunch of strwhore shielders with unbreakable shields, great idea..

[Panos_]

and you will get a bunch of strwhore shielders with unbreakable shields, great idea..

beats having all those scimmitar/pick high ath spammers

[Grumbs]

and you will get a bunch of strwhore shielders with unbreakable shields, great idea..

I think its easier to beat a slow moving shielder than a fast one. You can see that with the number of people who don't take a heavy shield, or try taking 2 shields with 1 on your back for the movement speed penalty.  Easier to nudge them, easier to circle strafe, easier to dodge their shorter range etc. If someone wants an unbreakable shield you can do it already while also being uncatchable.

Not that I think its an important change to make. I'm not really sold either way since balanced builds are kind of the norm anyway and you don't really need more than 5-6 in shield skill

[Rebelyell]

If soo put str requirement on some shields

but keep shield skill based on agi

[woody]

Oh dear, x bows need power draw? Wtf?

If you are going to nerf it just make x bows less accurate or something rather than a nonsensical nerf.

On shields I believe shield use should be strength based and shield skill should be agi based. Wow - isnt that what every other form of Warband has? Never understood why being really agile meant you could hold a fucking great heavy shield, or why a huge strong guy cant even pick up a small shield, a crpg anomaly based on balance and no other reason at all.

Oh and as a fairly big guy when I tried to draw a 140lb warbow I couldnt quite do it, power draw would need specific training. Guy whose bow it was while heavily muscled was quite small ie 90kg or so.

[Gravoth_iii]

beats having all those scimmitar/pick high ath spammers

Strength shielder is by far stronger (i would argue the strongest class in the game) than agi shielder. Also implying everyone doesnt stop at 5 shield skill anyways, and no one would go below 15 agi/str at this high level patch. Literally wouldnt change a thing.

[BlackxBird]

Well powerdraw for a xbow would kinda make sense cuz to reload a normal xbow without special eq you need to be very strong^^ or maybe something like xbow reloading skill. So wpf makes the xbow more accurate and the reloading skill makes the reloading faster (I think those ones who trained reloading a xbow in medival could do that in like half of the time a normal soldiers needs)

[Siiem]

Because XBows are the only thing in the game with 0 requirements. You don't even need to dedicate all your WPF into them. While other builds might need to sacrifice something for their ranged ability for the sake of balance, xbowers lose next to nothing

I really don't give a shit.

[BlackxBird]

Last time we defended Sargoth (in strat) me and arn were standing on a tower and shot down, without any xbow wpf we were able to hit enemies up to 50-60 meters away from us and we were able to compete with enemy archers :3 This is kinda completely ridiculous cuz when you give a normal person a xbow he'd may be able to shoot like 10-15 meters.

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Last time we defended Sargoth (in strat) me and arn were standing on a tower and shot down, without any xbow wpf we were able to hit enemies up to 50-60 meters away from us and we were able to compete with enemy archers :3 This is kinda completely ridiculous cuz when you give a normal person a xbow he'd may be able to shoot like 10-15 meters.

You ever shoot a crossbow? It isn't that hard to do. First time I shot one I hit a target from about 140 feet off(which is like 40 meters or something?) pretty easily.