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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #90 on: May 25, 2015, 12:46:16 pm »
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I you believe that you are only fooling yourself. For example Sansa Stark is a focus character in the books who is in a very good position at the end of the last book
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« Reply #91 on: May 25, 2015, 12:51:52 pm »
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So?
So therefore the book lore is negated in the show The Hound and Brienne no longer are under book lore constraints
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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #92 on: May 25, 2015, 12:59:04 pm »
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So therefore the book lore is negated in the show The Hound and Brienne no longer are under book lore constraints
That's retarded reasoning and sounds like you're just bitter over the fact that the show isn't following the books closely anymore and just wanted an excuse to vent. The characters have the exact same backstory.
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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #93 on: May 25, 2015, 01:07:25 pm »
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I actually am happy that they re not following the books anymore. Why would I want to watch a book I read, this way I can enjoy both of them.

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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #94 on: May 25, 2015, 04:11:46 pm »
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So therefore the book lore is negated in the show The Hound and Brienne no longer are under book lore constraints
Still suggesting that The Hound and Brienne aren't considered great warriors in the show is dumb as hell, especially since even in the show Brienne won the melee at Renly's camp and the Hound held his own against the Mountain for a bit, beat Beric Dondarrion and wrecked groups of soldiers on his own on like three occasions.

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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #95 on: May 25, 2015, 07:09:57 pm »
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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #96 on: May 25, 2015, 07:33:10 pm »
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Producers and directors rarely pay attention to choreography.

Despite the general production quality, budget, and attention to detail in other aspects, it rarely follows through with choreography.

Unless the production in question has choreography as it's sole focus (Haywire comes to mind) or is some sort of (Blood and Bone, the Warrior, etc.) fight sports drama.

Even when attention is given to it in some areas (see the second episode of Daredevil vs. all others) they tend to forget about it later on, and default to either flashy stage moves or slow, simple, telegraphed struggles with unstable camerawork (to hide the shitty choreography) that is, I think, only acceptable in something like Blue Ruin, where you have regular people fighting to the death.

I don't think the industry has a solid stable (not that these people don't exist; merely that there's probably no relationship established between production companies and such experts) of medieval martial arts choreographers to call on, and when they do, I don't think they bother to listen to their opinions on what's best for displaying an action.

They don't care about it because they probably don't even think about it. More importantly, they believe your average viewer does not, and they're probably right. Note, however, that the bar is being (very slowly) raised in modern unarmed combat choreography, so I'm sure that something similar will happen with medieval fight scenes one day.

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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #97 on: May 25, 2015, 08:40:43 pm »
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I think the problem stems from that what audience's expect medieval combat to look like is quite far from what historical evidence and martial experts would show.  The success of GoT comes from appealing to mass audiences with a great deal of tropes while spicing it up with just a limited amount of believability or historic sensibility.
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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #98 on: May 25, 2015, 08:59:29 pm »
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Note, however, that the bar is being (very slowly) raised in modern unarmed combat choreography
Thank god for Bourne Identity. The movie that changed unarmed combat from 70s Bond movie style to what we have now in Taken, new JB's, John Wick, etc., etc.

Also, one problem is that I don't think guys like Sandor's actor or the Mountain's actor can actually MAKE it look realistic, even with choreography, when they've never done any kind of martial art or gymnastics. "Normal people" are extremely clumsy when they try to do this stuff for the first times.
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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #99 on: May 26, 2015, 04:41:41 pm »
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« Reply #100 on: May 26, 2015, 06:02:12 pm »
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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #101 on: May 26, 2015, 06:33:04 pm »
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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #102 on: May 26, 2015, 07:03:20 pm »
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I'd legit sacrifice my favorite 3 show characters alive in the show (Stannis, Arya Stark and Jon Snow) if show Daenerys could just die alongside her boytoy and never appear in another episode again.



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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #103 on: May 26, 2015, 07:38:12 pm »
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Re: GoT=/=ASOIAF
« Reply #104 on: May 26, 2015, 07:41:08 pm »
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