Total War Hammer

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

It's something they've never managed to get right, in Rome and medieval 2 they stayed together for the impact then kind of spread out behind, in shogun 2 it was the stylized 1v1 stuff so wasn't as important, in Rome they just clumped together and probably crashed the game or something and Attila was like Rome 2 without the crashes.

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

I played the demo today at Eurogamer, was better than expected actually although blobbing is still too effective. The units look cool and the big guys all have fancy animations. Was too easy.

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[Lt_Anders]

Come now, who didn't expect this?

[Leesin]

Yeah, I was waiting for the big news yesterday and a lot of people on TWC are pissed, the whole thing stinks tbh. Announcing pre-order with over 6 months to go with the selling point of including the Chaos faction for those that do, is fairly shitty, more so than the Attila factions they did that with ( I think it was the vikings ). Seeing as Chaos is a very prominent army of Warhammer it's basically a kick in the bollocks announcing 6 months ahead of release that you'll have to pay for them on top of the game if you don't pre-order it, it's day 1 DLC drama again. I won't be pre-ordering for the simple fact it's £50 on Steam and I will be able to get it considerably cheaper on release from a number of key sites, but I can see why this pisses off TW and Warhammer fans alike.

[[ptx]]

What a boner-killer. Seriously, did their marketing do a survey on the worst thing they could possibly do?

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

Not buying for sure now.

[Latvian]

pirating for sure

[Lt_Anders]

All those apologists defending the day1 dlc.

[Uther Pendragon]

Just make sure to hate the right target - I'm almost sure it was a decision from SEGA, who is the publisher, not Creative Assembly.

But that doesn't change the fact that it's both absurd and to be expected. The same way the took out Greek States from Rome 2 and proto-Viking factions from Attila (thank god they kept Huns in!)
Just vote with the wallet - Deus Ex pre-order brainfart was declared null when not enough people bothered to buy into it, there is a meak chance if preorders for WARHAMMER are shit this will be also cancelled

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

Problem is that it's expected these days. CA/Sega did it right with Empire adding in famous units rather than the generic ones but then adding whole factions in with Shogun - still not that bad considering the number available at the start but it's dwindled with every release since, more getting added by DLC and less in the actual game. I don't understand it, especally when CDPR and Bethesda are being praised heavily for their stance on DLC with both The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 looking at being in the most popular games of the year.

Then adding in the cut stuff as a preorder incentive... Maybe next year they'll release it on consoles and give them exclusive factions... Getting silly.

[Angantyr]

I promised myself after buying NTW collectors edition, and still having to pay for several unit dlcs shortly thereafter, that I would not buy another Total War game again that used a similar DLC system. I broke this when I bought Attila and had to buy the Viking forefathers DLC. Then, using this DLC as it should be; invading England, I found that all fucking Celtic factions used generic nordic units and that the real rosters for these factions came in a seperate DLC aswell.

[darmaster]

a lesson to us all

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[Mr_Oujamaflip]

I promised myself after buying NTW collectors edition, and still having to pay for several unit dlcs shortly thereafter, that I would not buy another Total War game again that used a similar DLC system. I broke this when I bought Attila and had to buy the Viking forefathers DLC. Then, using this DLC as it should be; invading England, I found that all fucking Celtic factions used generic nordic units and that the real rosters for these factions came in a seperate DLC aswell.

That was the worst thing, i mean come on just copy pasting civilizations so they're in the game then fleshing them out in DLC... ugh

[GRANDMOM]

Orcs, humans, Dwarfs and Undead apparently are included......but......preorder and get the Chaos warrior race pack.........WTF?

Then I imagine DLC:s for Skaven (4.99), Elves (4.99), Black Elves (4.99), Chaos Dwarfs (4.99) - am I wrong?