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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #240 on: April 17, 2015, 05:39:11 pm »
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Err, what did I do to you now?

Elect a worthy successor and teach him how to walk in your old shoes, or don't sleep three nights and fix it yourself  :wink:  Posthumously we will do for you bronze statue with +3 gold crown  :)

Not sure about you, but I prefer to wait for new game a bit longer in 5* hotel, than shorter in morgue with corpses around...
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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #241 on: April 17, 2015, 10:21:36 pm »
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at best, you'll get a motel 6 with a couple of dead hookers under the bed
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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #242 on: April 17, 2015, 11:48:13 pm »
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yeah hehe still better than morgue  :D

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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #243 on: April 18, 2015, 12:35:00 am »
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If Melee devs prioritizing Melee over cRPG is a deal breaker for some then so be it, I think you're being extremely unfair and silly but you feel what you feel :)

cRPG isn't one or two people, and no one has abandoned anything, I presume some of you just want to troll and didn't even read the posts because that's a ludicrous statement and once again incredibly callous towards all those volunteers that has and is working on the mod. Frankly I find all these posts to be just so heartless, that people would hold so little respect for the enormous amount of time, effort and money all these people has put into the mod over so many years. We're trying to attract new blood for the mod here, not scare them away... If you want the mod to be problem free you're doing the opposite of helping here.

Nothing stays static, the meta of the game can warrant new changes to balance things etc, new bugs appear. It cannot simply be left be, it's not an FPS shooter.

I personally spent more hours in cRPG than I did in Counter-Strike 1.6 with prior versions combined, my two most favourite games of all time, had an amazing blast in cRPG and Strategus, still enjoy the current patch just fine too and I haven't encountered any bugs personally that a repair didn't fix, only lag issues (which I blame the server hosting centre for).

Melee is a spiritual successor, which I think a few of you are misinterpreting, it doesn't mean sequel, nor standalone, copy, and so on, in fact Assassins Creed is the spiritual successor to Prince of Persia, Hellgate London devs said their game was the spiritual successor to Diablo II (key developers previously worked on D2 at Blizzard), Dragon Age Origins is the spiritual successor of the Baldur's Gate series and so on. Those games are very different than the games they hold as their spiritual successors, and the teams behind these didn't have the same developers as the successor except for maybe Bioware with DAO/Baldur, cba checking credits :P (Read more about spiritual successors for games here)
  • cRPG isn't one or two people and haven't been since initially
  • cRPG is http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/credits
  • Melee != cRPG
  • Melee will have its rite of passage based on how fun people find it once they get to play it, some will enjoy it, some might prefer other games instead. "Play and let play" as the great Player One said.
  • cRPG won't die, not even after Melee is long released, we agreed upon that before starting on Melee. People are being sought, structure is here, progress will happen (volunteers are working on stuff all the time when they are able to, check the cRPG sub forums!).

I'm also moving this thread to the cRPG forum because it's more about cRPG than Melee, would like to keep the Melee forum for actual Melee gameplay/content related posts.


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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #244 on: April 18, 2015, 03:09:28 am »
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so they killed cRPG with the revival patches and those patches came after so we will be swayed to buying M: BG in the future. Wouldn't a replica of the cRPG mod go over to Bannerlords?  Is it all for money? You can easily make a patch that has everyone running naked and change people's weapons to carrots or somethings and then say M:BG will be a whole lot better. Oh right a recent patch made weapons disappear and shields disappear and had helmets flying in mid air, some people with no heads, anything is better than that tbh. Just make regular cRPG with MnB bannerlord graphics and it'll be better with how cRPG is now.
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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #246 on: April 18, 2015, 10:09:51 am »
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As soon as you accepted donations for M:BG you opened yourselves up to ranting of entitled whiners. No one but a complete idiot could fault you for failing to deliver a "product" up to their standards or lacking professional conduct when it comes to crpg. It's a free mod. No one has ever pretended that it was anything more than a hobby/experiment, one which was mantained only because of popular response.
Sadly this fact won't stop some from conflating a (it bears repeating) completely free mod to a potential standalone product. If you're donating to/buying M:BG, you're donating to/buying M:BG. Not cRPG. I don't see how this is hard to understand.
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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #247 on: April 18, 2015, 01:24:42 pm »
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Yes, that's why they made and worked on a free mod for 5 years whilst paying expenses such as server upkeep.

I do agree with the rest of the post, but this is not true. Or at least not entirely true. http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=donate Community paid for servers.

"Fix the mod" people whine here, but the only major issue with cRPG right now is lack of players. Which is "unfixable", no matter if helmets floating in the air or some other minor bugs will be fixed or not.
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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #248 on: April 18, 2015, 01:57:01 pm »
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Do you seriously believe that the community donated enough to keep multiple servers both EU/NA running for multiple years? :rolleyes:

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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #249 on: April 18, 2015, 03:53:49 pm »
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Do you seriously believe that the community donated enough to keep multiple servers both EU/NA running for multiple years? :rolleyes:

Someone is paying for cRPG hosting? I thought chadz is hosting it from his shack and that lags happen when he watches porn or upload M:BG files on github.

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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #250 on: April 18, 2015, 08:37:14 pm »
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Do you seriously believe that the community donated enough to keep multiple servers both EU/NA running for multiple years? :rolleyes:

I neither believe nor do not believe, cause I have no knowledge: 1. how much in total community donated, 2. how much servers cost. That's why I said:

this is not true. Or at least not entirely true.
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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #251 on: April 18, 2015, 09:30:57 pm »
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I neither believe nor do not believe, cause I have no knowledge: 1. how much in total community donated, 2. how much servers cost. That's why I said:

It doesn't really matter. It's still a free mod. You don't need to donate in order to play.
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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #252 on: April 18, 2015, 09:33:59 pm »
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It doesn't really matter. It's still a free mod. You don't need to donate in order to play.

Erm, what? Where did I say it's not a free mod? Or that u or anyone else need to donate? Just tried to point out that what Hesky said about devs paying for servers is not entirely true, cause at least partialy we, the community paid for them. That's all.
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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #253 on: April 18, 2015, 10:01:53 pm »
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Erm, what? Where did I say it's not a free mod? Or that u or anyone else need to donate? Just tried to point out that what Hesky said about devs paying for servers is not entirely true, cause at least partialy we, the community paid for them. That's all.

Sorry I thought you underlined that part in his post and replied to that. Yes you're right community has donated to participate in paying server costs.
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Re: Why would I buy M:BG if you dont even fix bugs in your mod anymore?
« Reply #254 on: April 20, 2015, 02:00:05 am »
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Just think if every mod on warband decided to go and make their own game. Actually I'm kidding. So will M: BG be able to be modded like warband? Or will they be taking requests and suggestions and maybe making polls on what people want that would be cool.
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