Nerf couched lance

[ecorcheur_brokar]

ffs this is not about lance angle!

I don't get it! To make it simple:
- Couched lance is the easiest way to deal damage.
- Couched lance is the thing that deals the most damage.

The problem is simple as that!

[POOPHAMMER]

Leave cav alone. Pay attention to what is going on around you. Couched lances are easy as piss to avoid.

[Casimir]

yeah with the current horse stats you can almost always outmaneuver a couched lance on foot.  people getting couch kills are more down to the failure of their opponent to see it than they're own skill, however lack of situational awareness should be punished.  there is no need to nerf couch lances, its a complete non-issue.

[Rebelyell]

yeah with the current horse stats you can almost always outmaneuver a couched lance on foot.  people getting couch kills are more down to the failure of their opponent to see it than they're own skill, however lack of situational awareness should be punished.  there is no need to nerf couch lances, its a complete non-issue.

no we want skillsocialism

[Alvin_the_Chipmunk]

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.

Don't tell me you can't chamber couches.

[LordRichrich]

Even I can chamber couches about 50% of the time. Alternatively, dodge.

[ecorcheur_brokar]

no we want skillsocialism

I would rather call it meritocracy, it makes people from east less afraid.

OK for all you say, people have to be carefull, dodge, chamber, etc. But why a couched lance should deal 5 times the amount of damage of a 1h cav, when the 1h-cav took so much more risk than the couched lance?

[Casimir]

Because a lance is an purpose designed cavalry weapon intended to be the optimal weapon on horseback!


Seriously are you stupid or just intentionally obtuse? 1h weapons are so much more flexible you can do almost anything with them, lances are next to worthless once you are dismounted.  With the fucked lance angles in cRPG 1h cav are arguably more effective than lancer cav at anything but ambush attacks. Damage wise the advantage of couching is almost negligible to the utter devastation bump-slashing renders on people.


As i said earlier this is such a non-issue i don't understand how you can complain about it?

[Gurnisson]

1h cav are arguably more effective than lancer cav at anything but ambush attacks.

1h cav is pretty much only better at ambush attacks, not the other way around.

[Mr.K.]

Seriously are you stupid or just intentionally obtuse? 1h weapons are so much more flexible you can do almost anything with them, lances are next to worthless once you are dismounted.  With the fucked lance angles in cRPG 1h cav are arguably more effective than lancer cav at anything but ambush attacks. Damage wise the advantage of couching is almost negligible to the utter devastation bump-slashing renders on people.

Bumpslash was nerfed to ground, it rarely does any noticeable damage unless you get hit in the face with a 2H weapon (40c longsword, 41p morningstar and so on). Many of the couchlance cavalry are actually 1H/2H cavalry with none or very little wpf on polearms as that allows them to be effective on foot with the 1H/2H and effective with the great lance on horseback. With the nerfing of 2H class we now have more polearms than ever, which lancers can outreach, but 1H/2H cav just have to avoid. The balance is very much skewed to the side of lancers atm.

And why would you fight with a lance on foot anyway when you can just bring a spear/bardiche/axe or any other of the extremely strong polearm weapons?

[Nightmare798]

Its a couched lance, a tactic specifically tailored to do terrifying damage to who ever gets hit under right circumstances.

If you are so much of a moron to get hit by couched lance, then you deserve to die.

[Casimir]

1h cav is pretty much only better at ambush attacks, not the other way around.

what? ive been rolling around the last few days with a pole / 1h hybrid and do most of my damage with 1h.  i'm also using a shit 1h sword which aint designed for cav fighting at all.  i really dont see the issue.

[Alvin_the_Chipmunk]

Learn to chamber couches. Why?

 - The horsebump-stab/swing combo can't be used, because the couch is too long.
 - Cav coming at you with couch, and you're backed up against the wall? Chamber that lance. The cav will probably hit the wall behind you and rear. Cut him up.
 - When you chamber a very long couch lance, you can sneak in an overhead or a stab.

Chambering in the first place is satisfying enough.

[Macropus]

- When you chamber a nigga long couch lance, you can sneak in an overhead or a stab.

fixed, sorry.

[ecorcheur_brokar]

Seriously are you stupid or just intentionally obtuse?

Am I the one abtuse, when I showed so many arguments and you just said: " you just have to chamber it".

I understood I wont change your mind and this is my last post on this topic. "you can't wake up someone pretending to sleep"

Just wanted to show how ridiculous couched lance is:
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Couched lance is so difficult...this guy just couched everybody from front or behind. Absolutely nothing to do but going full speed press change mode....

Next map, he killed a kalmar guy who was the last man standing against 6 enemies. The kalmar guy killed 5 of them (so not any random noob). Matthaus charged from the front and the kalmar died to a fucking couched lance, so maybe it's not as easy as you say to avoid to get couched.