War with the Whore

[Jona]

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Hi Jona!  I'm Bryggan.  I will be your guide to the current state of political affairs in NA politics.

Some people attacked some people, and some other people helped the people attacked.  Then those people declared war on those people.

Hope I helped clarify things.

The thing is, it is a new war, and I'm sure nobody really knows what side they are on at the moment.

Nifty, thanks pal.

Its [Curaw is] the seat of the North.

Seat of the north my arse! Sargoth is the capital of the Nords in native, and it is actually modeled to look like a viking village/town/city... the true capital of the north if there ever was one!

[Lethwin Far Seeker]

Mae Govannen lords of Calradia.

Thoroughly pleased to see you guys still have will enough to read this stuff.  Radsvids declaration was poetic but there seems to be some confusion as to the decision to declare war on the Starks.  So I'm hopefully going to clarify.

The principal cassus belli is that the Starks have now twice made aggression on our allies.  They first attacked the Squids who were (by Squids I mean MIND CALAMARI) helping us in our war against Bryggan's Empire.  This was said to be an accident so we didn't respond harshly- though it was sort of a wedding crasher.  More recently the Starks marched an army through our lands and attacked Blue in Curaw.  Curaw is in some sort of client state agreement with us.  Blue is independent in governance but is offering some trade benefits in exchange for military protection.  Thus we intervened and helped defend Curaw as the agreement dictates.  Following this attack, Tristan was sighted with a second army right on our doorstep.  His intentions were unknown but given the circumstances we were not willing to risk another attack that would put us at a disadvantage (Rostam's reinforcement of Curaw was a close thing I hear).  The majority of Mithrim's council voted in favour of declaring war due to there being little hope of sustaining peace and to address the attacks on our allies leaving me without reluctance in declaring war.

Whether the Stark's radical expansionism is a true threat to the North is undetermined and thus Taser and the HoC are not obligated to take part.  Thats right Bryggan, The Warden's are a confederation, not an empire.  Mithrim in reality only holds a small portion of the strat map. 

We hope that the end result of this will be removing the Starks from our borders and securing our selves against their vandalism.  We are not pursuing a total wipe out or a large scale land grab. 

Hope that clears things up and I hope to see you on the field soon!

Signed and sealed,

Finnian Tiercel, Lord Warden of the Wardens of the North and King of Mithrim



EDIT:  I see you guys have attacked some HoC villages....   :3    HAVE FUN WITH BONESAW

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[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Following this attack, Tristan was sighted with a second army right on our doorstep.  His intentions were unknown but given the circumstances we were not willing to risk another attack that would put us at a disadvantage (Rostam's reinforcement of Curaw was a close thing I hear). 

You attacked me literally as I was leaving your guys land. Try and rationalize it as you will, but it was fairly obvious I was leaving. Also you could haveve just as easily messaged me(I'm friends with you, Thalion, Jona, JayJrod, Finian, Bonesaw, etc on steam or on the forums). I was forbidden from attacking you anyways as we had treaties(despite your constant threats to the Queen and my fellow bannermen).

EDIT:  I see you guys have attacked some HoC villages....   :3    HAVE FUN WITH BONESAW

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Yeah believe it or not, when you declared war on us we decided to actually fight back. Not a huge shocker IMO. I'm sure you'll attack some of our fiefs as well.


I think the real sketchy thing is why WOTN are declaring war on us AFTER they gave us the troops to attack Curaw with, and then after a good chunk of them were mercing for us switch sides to help defend mere hours before the battle begins. For those who speak so much about honor and vandalism you seem to have little of the former and do much of the latter.


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Realized I'm coming off as an asshole. I'm just salty because I can't show up to fight for my army tomorrow.

[Sharpe]

Can someone please explain to Sharpe what is going on, Sharpe is as lost, well, as lost an idiot stumbling through the encyclopedia.

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Here's a chronological recount from Tristan(warning may be wrong, I am known for being kind of a retard):
1. I attacked New Ahmerrad because I thought Squids were dead and wanted a city
2. MIND_CALAMARI was apparently not dead so he came and bopped my army's booty then attacked my city, which i successfully defended.
3. After months(literally) of trying to get Thalion to respond to marriage proposals we decided to attempt to ally with KOTN since Bryggan would actually talk to us(and KOTN wasnt mercing against us in literally every single battle we did), we decided to switch our focus towards helping KOTN over WOTN.
4. We figured Squids were still AFK and dead and attacked them claiming a ton of their fiefs(all except Narra I believe(but also I mean really, those fiefs were doing nothing. They dont even play anymore whats the harm in letting actually active players take some fiefs))
5. Thalion told us to stop taking their fiefs and broker peace in exchange for marriage to I believe JayJrod
6. We agreed to peace with the Squids and me and Dr_Device went away from Narra and abandoned our dreams of taking it.
7. Wick was a retard and thought we were joking when we told him not to attack. He got rekt and lost his army and all of his gear. This made Thalion PO'd and he told us to exile Wick to EU or some shit.
8. Legionnaires rebelled and killed KOTN. This left Curaw open. Me and the Queen planned a campaign North to reclaim her homeland(Curaw).
9. We rode north together, with my army acting as her escort. There we went to New Yruma castle and were given 1,000 troops by JayJrod to go and take Curaw in exchange for armor and weapons for his castle.
10. The Queen besieged her home city to reclaim it. I stood guard outside the city to prevent any reinforcements from coming in. When Rostam was spotted, I was instructed not to engage him as we wanted to avoid hostilities with the Wardens.
11. JayJrod and a few other Warden members sign up for our roster early on. Things are looking well. Then a few hours before the siege starts Jay and a few others switch to defense and then all of WOTN is rostering against us as well. I was camping so I was basically out of the fight so I could only sit and watch as we were slaughtered on the walls.
12. I was told not to extract revenge on Rostam by the Queen and turned to leave the North, stopping by New Karindi village to pick up trade goods to sell back in my lands to the South.
13. JayJrod attacks me just outside New Karindi. Radsvid gives the lamest war declaration(Which wasn't even really one, it was just he heard rumors saying he heard that there might be a war coming(and I also wasn't sure it was serious or not when he posted it)). Some people posted RP stuff in the forums.



P.S. I'm stil salty

[Thalion_Menelvagor]

First order of business, I'd someone with a penchant for chivalry I have to apologize to Not So Innocent for our Master of Coin's crude sense of humor. He is a good fellow, but spends most of his time with dwarves and bankers and as such his tongue is sharp and lacks restraint.


Secondly, - wait what? -  we gave you 1000 troops to take Curaw? *Goes back to perform faction internal audit*


Thirdly, it would have been nice if you had let us known you had designs on Curaw or some ancient homeland claim. 

Fourthly,  I told Jay he could stay on your roster because he said he would fight for y'all before he knew we had a pact with Blue. I'm not sure why he switched.  I was hiding in my sleeping bag shivering with fever most of that day and only came out to take my place on the walls for a few minutes before crawling back off try to swallow a few sips of hot broth before curling up in a fetal position in my bed again.

Fithly, honestly I forgot what all else I was going to say and my lunch break is almost over. 

[Talanarsis]

Thirdly, it would have been nice if you had let us known you had designs on Curaw or some ancient homeland claim. 

I'm pretty sure I told you I was planning on attacking Curaw. I guess I just thought I did or you forgot... And I hope that fever goes away! Get well soon!

[Taser]

Whether the Stark's radical expansionism is a true threat to the North is undetermined and thus Taser and the HoC are not obligated to take part.  Thats right Bryggan, The Warden's are a confederation, not an empire.  Mithrim in reality only holds a small portion of the strat map.

While this is true, you think I'm going to stand idle while a war begins? C'mon now. Not going to let you hog all the fun.

Besides HoC is in it now, I refuse to be the sole man out.

Be ready.. taser's coming.

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[Talanarsis]

While this is true, you think I'm going to stand idle while a war begins? C'mon now. Not going to let you hog all the fun.

Besides HoC is in it now, I refuse to be the sole man out.

Be ready.. taser's coming.

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Hide yo kids! Hide yo wife! And hide yo husband, cuz they be tazin' everyone up in here!

[Taser]

Hide yo kids! Hide yo wife! And hide yo husband, because they be tazin' everyone up in here!

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[Talanarsis]

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If you're bringing that beast into battle i'm running!

[Jona]

Whether the Stark's radical expansionism is a true threat to the North is undetermined and thus Taser and the HoC are not obligated to take part.

Yeah, well seeing how they did take the fight to us...

In the words of mah main man Nine-Toes:

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[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Thirdly, it would have been nice if you had let us known you had designs on Curaw or some ancient homeland claim. 

I've at least known there were plans to get it since December 2014. Its basically been the main goal of the Starks. It would've been nice if you guys had let us know there was some secret pact between you guys and the Merchants of Curaw. I did tell the Queen to post a RP thread in this forum about the siege but it didn't happen.

Yeah, well seeing how they did take the fight to us...

Yeah we are the aggressor party when you guys attacked me first. Makes sense.

[Jona]

It would've been nice if you guys had let us know there was some secret pact between you guys and the Merchants of Curaw.

Most people tend to keep secrets, well... secret. 

Yeah we are the aggressor party when you guys attacked me first. Makes sense.

I didn't call you the aggressors, I acknowledge the fact that the WotN (as a faction) made the first move. However, the entities that make up our faction are still more or less independent, and the Hounds had yet to officially get involved. Can't blame you guys for not being able to know what goes on behind our closed doors... it's merely an unfortunate turn of events for you guys, is all.

[Built]

First order of business, I'd someone with a penchant for chivalry I have to apologize to Not So Innocent for our Master of Coin's crude sense of humor. He is a good fellow, but spends most of his time with dwarves and bankers and as such his tongue is sharp and lacks restraint.


  I was hiding in my sleeping bag shivering with fever most of that day and only came out to take my place on the walls for a few minutes before crawling back off try to swallow a few sips of hot broth before curling up in a fetal position in my bed again.

Fithly, honestly I forgot what all else I was going to say and my lunch break is almost over.

Sorry to hear about the fever, get well. Yes my tongue lacks restraint because once you take the heel off a beast it never wants to be under it again.