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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #120 on: February 26, 2015, 10:11:14 pm »
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Pensions are quite the hot issue. And issue on its own. Greatest trick NWO bankers (as Tovi calls them) have up their sleeve is to credit a poor country with fiat money and take pensions people earned ages ago in return. It is happening pretty much everywhere and that is how rich get richer.

For example, my mother worked for almost 20 years in Yugoslavia, where average pay was more than three times of what is now. Now country that takes care of half of her pension is Bosnian Federation. She gets 53 KM (some imaginary money they use in Bosnia) which is around 27 euros. Other half she's getting from Serbia and is around 120 euros. She should be getting at least 300 euros as full pension.

That is robbery and it's happening on a grand scale. Also robbery is what Americans do, paying for valuable non-replenishable resources such as oil (which isn't just fuel, it is used everywhere in industry) with their worthless dollar they print whenever they feel like it and don't give a flying fuck about debt that is piling. Because they can.

Spoken like someone who doesn't live in the US. As a country, America knows it's broke and debted, but we just can't convince ourselves to cut anything, except for pensions.

Also, for pensions, Government shouldnt(and never should have) promised and covered retirement years. It's the dumbest and most cost uneffective thing a governement can do. Instead, they should do something like an investement fund account that you control and you manage with some government assurances(like what we have with banks and the 250k max guaranteed you can keep if a bank collapses)

But, people do not wish to be responsible for themselves, thus we always comeback to the problem: Letting people who never see the money being spent, spend it.

Also probably why shit goes over budget so much in countries(case in point: Molly's example). Government is Inefficient, everyone knows it, yet, we all rely on it. Ironic, no?
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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #121 on: February 26, 2015, 10:51:42 pm »
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when i get older, i will buy a small farmhouse, 2 pigs and a shotgun.
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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #122 on: February 26, 2015, 10:58:49 pm »
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I never get all the hype about US debt, sure they owe 17 trillion to various debtors, but they hold like 13 trillion of debt from others as well. Not an expert on international finance, but how is a net international investment position of -30% of GDP an issue? Italy, New Zealand, Australia and like 25 other countries have worse than that. Especially considering the ridiculously low interest rates the US can get, they probably make a few hundred billion from the interest they receive relative to the interest they pay.

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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #123 on: February 27, 2015, 01:08:49 am »
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usa is word police and evel
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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #124 on: February 27, 2015, 02:11:11 am »
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I never get all the hype about US debt, sure they owe 17 trillion to various debtors, but they hold like 13 trillion of debt from others as well. Not an expert on international finance, but how is a net international investment position of -30% of GDP an issue? Italy, New Zealand, Australia and like 25 other countries have worse than that. Especially considering the ridiculously low interest rates the US can get, they probably make a few hundred billion from the interest they receive relative to the interest they pay.

US dont have to worry about their debt to much, they just print the money that can pay it off, problems have those that borrowed money to US, because their loans get devalued by this, but since they don't have like 20 aircraft carriers they can do shit. But eventually it will all end up in dollar inflation spiral and half of american's won't be able to buy anything to eat. At that time it will be good to be a redneck. And its only one of many problems "we all will have to solve" - I think our generation will face huge problems that will result in such atrocities we can't even imagine.
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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #125 on: February 27, 2015, 09:04:18 am »
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Kinda weird how every topic seems to end up discussing MURRICA...
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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #126 on: February 27, 2015, 10:27:55 am »
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Here they build airports they can't finish and went like 300% over budget and still not done.
They build a train station underground which experts say is pointless.
They build some opera house in Hamburg which by now has to have 250 sold out events over the whole year for 30 years to get they money back in... and they aren't done building yet.
and so on...
and so on...
and so on...

What's paying proper pensions to the elderly who worked for 40 years and build the country from the ground in comparison, right?

If it was up to me, I would starve to death all the Greek pensioners, motherfuckers are the only reason that Greece has become the shithole it is today, mass tax evading, our farmers were sending false numbers to the EU to get fundings for their farms, most of them were selling their votes to the 2 most corrupted political parties of Europe for the last 45 years, and I could really go on and on and on.

Did you know that one year, Greece had more orange farms than Spain  :lol:
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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #127 on: February 27, 2015, 10:39:25 am »
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:lol:

Well, pensioners here actually paid 40 yrs of 40 yrs taxes and still get barely enough to survive. It bothers me but nothing anyone can do about it as long as most fucktards keep voting Mutti Merkel into office.
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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #128 on: February 27, 2015, 10:43:12 am »
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:lol:

Well, pensioners here actually paid 40 yrs of 40 yrs taxes and still get barely enough to survive. It bothers me but nothing anyone can do about it as long as most fucktards keep voting Mutti Merkel into office.

care to trade pensioners?  :lol:
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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #129 on: February 27, 2015, 05:42:54 pm »
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Kinda weird how every topic seems to end up discussing MURRICA...

It's almost as if the USA was 70% of the world's economy 50 years ago.

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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #130 on: February 27, 2015, 07:33:43 pm »
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omg omg omg so much win



V for Varufakis

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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #131 on: February 27, 2015, 08:20:06 pm »
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Have never watched something that is both cringeworthy and awesome at the same time as this video :lol:

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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #132 on: February 27, 2015, 09:17:59 pm »
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Have never watched something that is both cringeworthy and awesome at the same time as this video :lol:
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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #133 on: February 27, 2015, 09:47:39 pm »
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Have a look how modern democracy works:

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Re: why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
« Reply #134 on: February 27, 2015, 09:49:00 pm »
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So what is up with your reknown/infamy? Its a different number everytime page is refreshed.

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