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« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2015, 02:35:10 pm »
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That's why I wrote that I don't see guns as the usual collector's item.
I knew someone would come up with stamps :)
And why does it matter what you see something as? Literally anything can be a collector's item, just because you have an irrational fear of guns doesn't make people collecting them any more insane than someone collecting stamps or fossils or luxury cars.
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« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2015, 03:18:09 pm »
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On that note, an interesting article about the 'Wheatcroft collection', the private, largest collection of WWII German Nationalsozialismus memorabilia in the world. As an example, the guy owns more than 88 tanks.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/24/the-man-who-sleeps-in-einsteins-bed

Would love to see it one day, a veritable treasure trove.
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« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2015, 04:12:30 pm »
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On that note, an interesting article about the 'Wheatcroft collection', the private, largest collection of WWII German Nationalsozialismus memorabilia in the world. As an example, the guy owns more than 88 tanks.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/24/the-man-who-sleeps-in-einsteins-bed

Would love to see it one day, a veritable treasure trove.

He must be mentally insane.


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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2015, 04:16:28 pm »
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And why does it matter what you see something as? Literally anything can be a collector's item, just because you have an irrational fear of guns doesn't make people collecting them any more insane than someone collecting stamps or fossils or luxury cars.
Except maybe that every statistical comparison between gun affine and non-affine countries on relevant numbers will show that my fear is far from irrational...

...and now is the point I am exiting the thread!

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« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2015, 04:21:40 pm »
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You do realize that the number of times a firearm is used in successful self defense far outweighs the number of violence and murders using guns?

And that most of those gun murders is gang violence limited to ghettos?
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« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2015, 04:42:44 pm »
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« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2015, 04:48:42 pm »
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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2015, 05:27:11 pm »
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Fill a room with bees, and fill the same room with people armed with bee-swatters and you'll see that the number of times a bee-swatter is used in successful self defence far outweighs the number of bee stings. Despite the fact you have significantly more bee-stings than the neighbouring room, and that they manage perfectly fine without having to swat at bees every 2 seconds.

thats probably the best analogy ive seen on these damn forums yet, haha! ugh bees

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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2015, 05:37:28 pm »
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Fill a room with bees, and fill the same room with people armed with bee-swatters and you'll see that the number of times a bee-swatter is used in successful self defence far outweighs the number of bee stings. Despite the fact you have significantly more bee-stings than the neighbouring room, and that they manage perfectly fine without having to swat at bees every 2 seconds.

Except there is other forms of crime than murders with firearms.  the other room may not have bee stings, but its people are swarmed by mosquitos and spiders.
I would think a Brit would be familiar with this. Enjoy your high crime rate and knife stabbings

simple fact, armed citizens stop crime
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« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2015, 05:41:11 pm »
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Enjoy your prison-industrial-complex I guess.

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« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2015, 05:42:33 pm »
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Except maybe that every statistical comparison between gun affine and non-affine countries on relevant numbers will show that my fear is far from irrational...

...and now is the point I am exiting the thread!
Nope, there's plenty of statistics that show that isn't the case. Even though I'm not sure what affine means.

Anyway, that's completely missing the point. 1200 guns are not more dangerous than one (and even if they were, dangerous=mentally ill? Wut?). How is it more "mentally ill" to collect them than stamps? You have failed to provide reasons, over and over. Let me tell you why: because there is no logical reason for claiming that. If someone likes their aesthetics, their function, their history, whatever, then they'll collect them if they have the money. The same reasons anyone would collect anything else. That simple.

It's completely different to claim that you don't think it's ethical or right or you think it's dangerous to own so many guns than it is to claim that a collector is mentally ill.
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« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2015, 06:47:55 pm »
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Would you say the same thing about someone with 1200 post stamps? Are all collectors posters insane?

yes

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« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2015, 10:58:13 pm »
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I don't get it, what do the bees represent?

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« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2015, 11:04:24 pm »
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I don't get it, what do the bees represent?

Introspection.