Satiric newspaper attacked in France

[Christo]

nothing about this in Fance info....

https://twitter.com/JulienEspio/status/553553293310689281/photo/1

We'll see. people already type 'false attack' here and what not.

I wonder if there is a third group though, what do you think about that.

[Swaggart]

I was listening to Canadian moderate Muslims say that religious figures and images should be a sacred cow where essentially you are not allowed to offend. One of the people speaking said that essentially these sacred images or people or whatnot are not as sacred if people are drawing caricatures or mocking, etc.

This brings up an interesting point, are these thing off limits? If they are not, are you not enforcing your religious view on others? There is not any religious symbol to me that is sacred, does that mean I can mock it? Or is religion off limits because it may offend large amounts of people?

[pepejul]

In Laïc country like France, Religion (whatever it is) can't say what I have to do or what I can't do...

[lombardsoup]

I was listening to Canadian moderate Muslims say that religious figures and images should be a sacred cow where essentially you are not allowed to offend. One of the people speaking said that essentially these sacred images or people or whatnot are not as sacred if people are drawing caricatures or mocking, etc.

This brings up an interesting point, are these thing off limits? If they are not, are you not enforcing your religious view on others? There is not any religious symbol to me that is sacred, does that mean I can mock it? Or is religion off limits because it may offend large amounts of people?

I don't care if some goatfucking neckbeard is offended by well done satire.  There is NO ONE above criticism.  We don't want to live in a society where we go to prison or get executed for daring to criticize a religion.  These Islamists want a return to that middle ages thinking.

[pepejul]

All religious want ignorant pple to control them.... Islam like Christanism and Judaism.... all same shit

[Christo]

All religious want ignorant pple to control them.... Islam like Christanism and Judaism.... all same shit

except that christianity stopped being militant centuries ago.

[lombardsoup]

except that christianity stopped being militant centuries ago.

This.  The various strains of Islam need a reformation at the very least.  Yet for some reason, Islam is considered a sacred cow that must not be touched.

[lombardsoup]

Which terrorists? You still havent answered my question about who specifically you're making your stand against and ending the time for diplomacy or whatever it was you said, stuff about rising up and showing them who's boss. Who's 'Them'?

I dont think they're unstoppable at all, i think that throwing oil on the flames is a totally stupid and irresponsible thing to do.

Also, 'machines of killing', really?  Who even says that? Unless they were literally steam-powered robots with robotic crab legs and giant pincers in which case i'd call them 'killing machines', the other way round just sounds clunky.

I think diplomacy ended precisely at the time when those people were killed.  This is now a matter of survival.

[lombardsoup]

Blink and you miss it, for the most part this has turned into a basic bog-standard gun control thread. It's striking to see after Xant's posts that someone is still actually talking about Islam here xD

Then again, you could argue the events on wednesday were purely a gun-control issue, i'm not happy that a group of radicals were able to arm themselves so well in a country where the populace and most of the police are unarmed. The solution is one of 2 extremes, arming the populace to close the gap and prevent this specific event from happening, or crack down on illegal firearms to prevent lunatics getting them.

Diplomacy with who? Survival for whom?

Didn't think that you of all people would be an apologist.

[BASNAK]

You can take a dump on Islam as much as you want. Just don't make shit up. Still waiting for legit source.

Im still waiting.

[Prinz_Karl]

except that christianity stopped being militant centuries ago.

Islam today is as much developed as Christianity in Middle Age lol...

[lombardsoup]

Im still waiting.

For another attack perpetrated by adherents to the religion of pieces?  Have fun with that.

[Christo]

Islam today is as much developed as Christianity in Middle Age lol...

It's their own goddamn fault.

They had an advantage, and fucked it up.

[BASNAK]

For another attack perpetrated by adherents to the religion of pieces?  Have fun with that.

So you're just going to constantly spew random bullshit and constantly jump subject without providing any sources for claims you make?

[lombardsoup]

It's their own goddamn fault.

They had an advantage, and fucked it up.

These days Muslims are content with blowing up their own mosques, Christian churches, and damaging priceless Assyrian artifacts

So you're just going to constantly spew random bullshit and constantly jump subject without providing any sources for claims you make?

Do you not trust your own eyes as these attacks happen?