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Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« on: January 04, 2015, 02:12:04 pm »
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Morrowind was so good. The atmosphere alone is something that can't really be found anywhere else, the world was so immersive and alien. Shit, they even had those epic Telvanni "houses" that you needed to be able to levitate to get to - such a great detail that makes sense and is absent from other games.

Mass Effect style dialogues with Morrowind-esque gameplay and world would be the best game ever (plus better combat.)

Here's hoping the next TES will deliver -- ME style dialogue is the obvious evolution, so there's hope for that at least; whether they'll continue down the casual road gameplay-wise remains to be seen. Skyrim>Oblivion in every aspect, so maybe, just maybe there's hope.

Rumor mill has it that the next Elder Scrolls game takes place in Argonia. Not very excited for that personally, the walking lizards never interested me much.

The best map ever too, I still remember my physical version of it. I probably never visited a great deal of the locations there..
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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2015, 02:24:58 pm »
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I hope they make another elder scrolls with a realism option, with much more damages, needs like eating/drinking, better illnesses, etc ... some kind of hardcore mode.

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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2015, 02:27:35 pm »
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Fucking hope not. Of all places they choose Black Marsh? I hope it's fake.

I'd rather have Hammerfell or Elsweyr. Tired of grassy, grey, snowy, depressing landscapes. I'd rather have vast deserts, sunken cities under deserts, desert ruins, tropical beaches, tropical jungles and warm weather with a nice sun shining.
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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2015, 02:29:52 pm »
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Fucking hope not. Of all places they choose Black Marsh? I hope it's fake.

I'd rather have Hammerfell or Elsweyr. Tired of grassy, grey, snowy, depressing landscapes. I'd rather have vast deserts, sunken cities under deserts, desert ruins, tropical beaches, tropical jungles and warm weather with a nice sun shining.
Yeah, pretty much. There seems to be lots of sites reporting it's gonna be in Black Marsh, but some people are calling BS too. Hammerfell or Elsweyr would be the best IMO as well.
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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2015, 05:24:24 pm »
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Skyrim>Oblivion in every aspect, so maybe, just maybe there's hope.

That's not actually true though. Magic, quests, enchanting, character sheets, equipment durability, armor sets, monster variety (especially undead)... all got removed/dumbed down from Oblivion to Skyrim. Sure, many things are better in Skyrim than in Oblivion, but far from everything. Remember that first time you encounter a ghost and you get fucked because your steel weapons don't do anything?

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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2015, 05:29:29 pm »
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Oblivion is like billion times better than skyrim; starting from the fact it was not only nord themed and shit, every city was different. Also add the fact one came out in 2004 and the other late 2011, ofc skyrim surely has better feature but as for the ambientation and settings there is no possible compare. And fighting dragons was shit, rather fight hell's demons and shit.

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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2015, 06:12:10 pm »
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Argonians are best race in TES, so Black Marsh would be awesome setting because the Argonians could finally get the respect they deserve.

and Oblivion>Skyrim
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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2015, 06:33:28 pm »
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That's not actually true though. Magic, quests, enchanting, character sheets, equipment durability, armor sets, monster variety (especially undead)... all got removed/dumbed down from Oblivion to Skyrim. Sure, many things are better in Skyrim than in Oblivion, but far from everything. Remember that first time you encounter a ghost and you get fucked because your steel weapons don't do anything?
Well, yes, not in every aspect, I guess. Been too long since I played Oblivion to remember specific things about it - and it is a pretty forgettable game - but I felt Skyrim was a huge improvement in general. Still far from reaching Morrowind-level, though.
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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 07:41:55 pm »
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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2015, 07:58:28 pm »
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Honestly, the best thing they could do is make Morrowind 2. Would be great, especially since in Morrowind we only got to see Vvardenfell, not the whole Morrowind province.
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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2015, 08:14:12 pm »
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They can make a new TES covering Akavir where Nerevarine has went probably. There they got real serpent/snake races so why not skip Black Marsh.


Oblivion is like billion times better than skyrim; starting from the fact it was not only nord themed and shit, every city was different. Also add the fact one came out in 2004 and the other late 2011, ofc skyrim surely has better feature but as for the ambientation and settings there is no possible compare. And fighting dragons was shit, rather fight hell's demons and shit.

PS skyrim guilds were the shittiest ones ever made in a rpg

Yeah even though Oblivion was a bit boring with so much green everywhere Skyrim was so nord-centric and white everywhere. Also the faction quests for Oblivion was better than Skyrim. Except for Companions which was better than Fighters.

Luckily Skyrim has good expansions/DLCs. Oblivion only had Shivering Isles which was great and the rest was mediocre (HORSE ARMORZZZ FTW)
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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2015, 08:18:50 pm »
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One thing that I never liked is how they "dumbed down" Skyrim as someone said it, I felt like Skyrim lacked a lot of content compared to Oblivion and Morrowind. One thing I missed in Skyrim more than acrobatics, was attributes.

That being said, they seem to like to change it up a bit with their areas. Morrowind was a desert (for the most part), Oblivion was a woodland (for the most part), and Skyrim was a snowy waste (for the most part). That leaves the Jungles of Elswyr, Dragonfell mountains maybe (kind of like skyrim wihtout snow?), possibly the wood elf realm Valenwood (depending on the type of woods). Honestly for the most part,  I want to see the Summerset Isles, that would be an interesting place to see.

No matter what setting they choose, I hope they at least go back to their roots and not dumb down the game. At least it's unlikely we'll have gunpowder pirates sailing the seas as our next game.

They can make a new TES covering Akavir where Nerevarine has went probably. There they got real serpent/snake races so why not skip Black Marsh.

Or we can play during first era as the Empire rises, possibly first war against the Akavir? I'd find that an interesting game.
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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2015, 08:45:25 pm »
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Well, yes, not in every aspect, I guess. Been too long since I played Oblivion to remember specific things about it - and it is a pretty forgettable game - but I felt Skyrim was a huge improvement in general. Still far from reaching Morrowind-level, though.

I played Oblivion a ton and for me Skyrim is the more forgettable one. Sure, Oblivion had some wonky mechanics (persuasion wheel being probably the worst) but I feel it ultimately had better content, and that's very important in a RPG.

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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2015, 09:18:56 pm »
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To think about it deeply most RPGs are pretty forgetable to me atleast. Mainly because majority of fantasystories/movies/games are rougly the same worldsaving shit and the environments are always roughly the same aswell. For a while now I think fantasywriters have no passion for possibility and pretty much have borders on their works. Despite the word "fantasy" being used, its always slightly reworked version of Tolkien's fantasy(elves being good at archery, dwarfs being blacksmiths, their looks etc).For fucks sake its called FANTASY, make your own shit up, dont copy the world from him. Mybe they just lack any originality or are just so scared that their world becomes too alien that it distances it from readers/watchers/players. Who knows.
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Re: Morrowind nostalgia thread/TES Argonia
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2015, 09:32:58 pm »
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One thing that I never liked is how they "dumbed down" Skyrim as someone said it, I felt like Skyrim lacked a lot of content compared to Oblivion and Morrowind. One thing I missed in Skyrim more than acrobatics, was attributes.

That being said, they seem to like to change it up a bit with their areas. Morrowind was a desert (for the most part), Oblivion was a woodland (for the most part), and Skyrim was a snowy waste (for the most part). That leaves the Jungles of Elswyr, Dragonfell mountains maybe (kind of like skyrim wihtout snow?), possibly the wood elf realm Valenwood (depending on the type of woods). Honestly for the most part,  I want to see the Summerset Isles, that would be an interesting place to see.

No matter what setting they choose, I hope they at least go back to their roots and not dumb down the game. At least it's unlikely we'll have gunpowder pirates sailing the seas as our next game.

Or we can play during first era as the Empire rises, possibly first war against the Akavir? I'd find that an interesting game.

I wouldn't call Morrowind a game with deserts. More like grey/rocky mountains and some sand here and there. Elsweyr would be deserts and tropical jungles. And Hammerfell just deserts and beautiful beaches.

We need a proper desert landscape in a TES game so that would make Hammerfell or Elsweyr (unless you count Redguard game)
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