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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2014, 02:40:36 pm »
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I believe there are different training bots on the nditions duel-server in native. You could try fighting each of them.

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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2014, 04:08:45 am »
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Yup a tutorial in crpg with bots !
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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2014, 06:11:26 am »
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I'll give you a different answer. Not the answer, but what worked for me in 2010. It's harder to do this now, because of the playerbase, but it will train you faster than anything else if you're the sort that's alright with taking punishment.

Go 1h/no shield (alternatively, use a shield when ranged attack and put it away for melee) /light armor. This forces you to learn everything about melee fundamentals, from timing to blocking because everyone else will have an advantage. You'll have to be three times as attentive, patient, and smart.

But you will learn to be better if you stick with it. Every now and then, get on a 2h/polearm STF and you'll notice that the habits you learn as a 1h/no shield make you much, much better in those other classes. You may still lose a lot in your main, though. That's fine, so long as you learn from your losses.

Remember, the beauty of this game is simple: in Melee 1 on 1, you always die because of a mistake you made. Keep that in mind every time you get hit.

Edit: somehow, I missed Shatter's post, so the tl;dr is LISTEN TO SHATTER.

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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2014, 01:47:08 pm »
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If you go to EU3 always bring a pair of wooden swords or staffs with you.
Drop one on the floor. Most oponents will understand and pick it up. this allows you longer matches without dying.
there is no training if you get oneshot by a mighty axe. but if you survive some hits you can learn much more about your oponents movement and action.
 ( I am still horribly bad at it and try not to get into 1v1 during battle)
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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2014, 01:56:34 pm »
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Go EU3, be the best dueler on that server.

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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2014, 06:02:02 pm »
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Hey guys,
I want to know what is the best build /weapon to learn how to block. (level 34,  since most of the time i am  around 32-34)
Currently i switch between 2handed and polearm since i can do good and sometime very good but honestly no skill involved and any good player (even bad) kill me easly since my blocking isnt good.  I suck.
What i did since the last 2 months (5 gen as mele)
A) i praticed a bit in warband against AI
B) i searched about video and info on web (i found many CRPG hack but no really good info about advanced tips since the game seem to have changed a lot)
C) Practicing to block

I know i will never be as good that many players since some of you are playing mele since 4 years, but still, it's crazy how some of you know how to move, how to block, turn over and hit, fast hit, etc...

Thank you !
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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2014, 04:12:02 am »
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lol wich true ?

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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2014, 10:04:15 am »
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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2014, 12:56:11 pm »
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Ping IN FIGHT...

not ping when screened  :rolleyes:
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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2014, 05:45:59 am »
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Ping IN FIGHT...

not ping when screened  :rolleyes:

That's my normal ping on NA
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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2014, 05:05:43 pm »
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I believe there are different training bots on the nditions duel-server in native. You could try fighting each of them.

as he said , go on nditions or the ludus duel server on native and start with novice bots.
You must only parrying , not counterattack.
When you are confident about easy blocks , try with the advanced bots (always without attacking).
After that you can work on footwork with other players , cause bots are attacking pretty in front of you.
So , go duel someone is better than you (if you duel a novice like you you can't learn) and try to block swings in weird situations. adjust your mouse sensitivity if you need to.

that's all but most important thing is to have fun doing it , if you are bored of dueling or trying to do it , stop and do other things.
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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2014, 08:22:51 am »
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my very personnal advice :  Go on native singleplayer tutorial, learn block and attack good. Go duel servers, learn gud.

Come back to crpg and by that time there wont be anyone else playing so you'll never get hit again :) that's a 100% blocking success
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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2014, 11:49:00 am »
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When i have start mount and blade and crpg in 2010 (i think  :lol: ) , i have watched this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9jHcZjWw9U
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Re: learning to block /attack effectively
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2014, 10:54:48 am »
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Go 1h/no shield (alternatively, use a shield when ranged attack and put it away for melee) /light armor. This forces you to learn everything about melee fundamentals, from timing to blocking because everyone else will have an advantage. You'll have to be three times as attentive, patient, and smart.

[...] get on a 2h/polearm STF and you'll notice that the habits you learn as a 1h/no shield make you much, much better in those other classes.

I finally got really good at manual blocking by playing an agility 1H/shielder. That may seem counter-intuitive since I had 8 shield skill, but I did not fight duel bots or join the duel server for practice. I would use my shield in teamfights, but when you are fighting a single enemy (alone or with teamates) put your shield away. With high agility/athletics you will frequently find yourself fighting 1v1 if you move aggressively during the round. When you close in on an enemy archer/xbow or cav who just lost their horse you could easily kill them with your shield. Go the hard and honorable way - sheath your shield and duel like a proper noble would.

It's great practice, and the satisfaction from beating someone in a duel without your shield and point investment in shield skill is a massive ego boost. Even if your team loses, you (and the guys you killed) know that you are the most skilled player.

After that gen as 1H/shield I went back to polearm and holy moley was I better at it! Nobody expects you to be a good blocker when you have a long maul or 2D polearm!  :D
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