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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2014, 08:29:25 pm »
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Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai is one of the best PC strategy games period and has the smoothest most polished gameplay of any Total War game and was released all functional and good. Rome 2 made everyone hyperbolic shitposting idiots yet admittedly was botched on release. But Rome 2's patches shows CA listens to the internet and will prob approach Attila with more accountability. I'll judge the game when its out not rant about a company's ethics over a buggy overhyped rushed release a couple years ago that they've ended up fixing and I now regularly enjoy.

The problem is that it's one step forward and two steps back. Empire launched as a bug ridden beta, then they squeaked Napoleon by with minimal success. They learned from the mistakes of the Empire release for Shogun 2, but then promptly forgot just about everything for Rome 2, and now they are squeaking by Attila in a very similar way as Napoleon, all the features that should have been in Rome 2, with (maybe) less of the bugs. I just cannot understand how a company that doesn't retain a lesson past the next mildly successful release can maintain such a patient fan base.

Shogun 2 is a decent game if you enjoy extremely fast paced rock paper scissors type arcade strategy, and Fall of the Samurai is a great expansion on that concept, but a company must be judged on it's entire body of work, not just the one time they managed release something in a mostly finished state. On the whole CA has been on the decline in quality since they released Empire, and one mildly enjoyable game doesn't change that.

I put 3500 hours into Rome and Medieval 2, mostly because of mods (same reason I've put nearly 4000 in Warband by now), yet these new Total War titles can't even hold my attention long enough for me to finish a short campaign. The only redeeming factor that Rome 2 has going for it is the mod community, which CA only put in tools for because they knew they weren't going to be able to finish the game in time for release, and even after a year of patches would not be able to fully flesh out all the features and mechanics that should have been there from the beginning.

The only thing SEGA (and to a lesser extent CA) understands long term is sales; until Total War sales go down we're going to keep getting pretty lackluster (if not unplayable) games with a few gems sprinkled (accidentally) in the mix.

Uh... I'm not sure if you've noticed but every game publisher/developer is doing this; not just SEGA and CA.  It really sucks but if I refused to support any shady practices stemming from this business, I'd have like no games to play.

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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2014, 08:33:18 pm »
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I guess I should've specified that every AAA publisher/developer is doing this.

And I'm the bitch because I actually enjoy what I payed for??  You're doing all the bitching here.
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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2014, 08:46:12 pm »
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I guess I should've specified that every AAA publisher/developer is doing this.

And I'm the bitch because I actually enjoy what I payed for??  You're doing all the bitching here.

T'was only a joke ol' buddy. Though I do hope you bought that shit on a mega sale.
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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2014, 08:52:26 pm »
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Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai is one of the best PC strategy games period and has the smoothest most polished gameplay of any Total War game and was released all functional and good. Rome 2 made everyone hyperbolic shitposting idiots yet admittedly was botched on release. But Rome 2's patches shows CA listens to the internet and will prob approach Attila with more accountability. I'll judge the game when its out not rant about a company's ethics over a buggy overhyped rushed release a couple years ago that they've ended up fixing and I now regularly enjoy.

I pay to play my games now, not 1 year from now, even if they are good 1 year from now.
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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2014, 09:00:00 pm »
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T'was only a joke ol' buddy. Though I do hope you bought that shit on a mega sale.

I found the spoiler tag, now I feel a little bad; just ignore my last comment and downvote. 

I actually bought it on release, played it for like 2 weeks, got bored and a little disappointed, went a whole year without touching it while I played other games, booted it up a few weeks ago with new patches and hundreds of mods, now I'm quite content with it and I'm enjoying a campaign as Scythia atm.  It was a sound investment, that's the way I look at it.

Of course it would've been nice to have all that at the start but I've got it now and that's my point

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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2014, 09:03:44 pm »
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I pay to play my games now, not 1 year from now, even if they are good 1 year from now.

I apologize.  I had to

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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2014, 09:31:51 pm »
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Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai is one of the best PC strategy games period and has the smoothest most polished gameplay of any Total War game and was released all functional and good. Rome 2 made everyone hyperbolic shitposting idiots yet admittedly was botched on release. But Rome 2's patches shows CA listens to the internet and will prob approach Attila with more accountability. I'll judge the game when its out not rant about a company's ethics over a buggy overhyped rushed release a couple years ago that they've ended up fixing and I now regularly enjoy.

I agree with this, except I actually think shogun 2 main campaign with dlc >>>> fall of sam. but thats cause gun based total bores me.

I think Attila might be really good, but yeah I'm not pre-ordering after rome 2's release state.

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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2014, 11:05:39 pm »
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I agree with this, except I actually think shogun 2 main campaign with dlc >>>> fall of sam. but thats cause gun based total bores me.

I think Attila might be really good, but yeah I'm not pre-ordering after rome 2's release state.

I would refrain from pre-ordering anything these days.  It's a marketing gimmick

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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2014, 11:06:27 pm »
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*double post* accidently quoted myself

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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2014, 12:04:24 am »
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*double post* accidently quoted myself
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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2014, 12:59:40 am »
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when you try to modify a previous post but unknowingly select quote instead; irrelevant but since you asked.

Was that question legitimate?  I can't tell.
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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2014, 01:36:28 am »
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Meh will wait for it to come out as I have the last 2.

Fall of the samurai for me I didn't enjoy at all. Wasn't a fan of the pew pew to be honest. Thought it lacked depth and it definately (for me) had limited re-play value. I much preferred the Vanilla Shogun 2, as to me I could keep playing that for ages.

Napoleon was a joke and I could never understand how people could enjoy it. Empire was similar, I liked it, but it got boring after a while of using the same tactics time and time again.

The alst 2 TW games i've enjoyed is that of Medieval and Rome, so now i'm overly dubious about anything they can pull off now.

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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2014, 02:23:33 pm »
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Napoleon was a joke and I could never understand how people could enjoy it.
Shit singleplayer, great and balanced multiplayer.
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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2014, 04:49:27 pm »
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I'll probably end up getting it but it won't be on release.  I think it'd be smarter to wait a few weeks after the initial patches and maybe gauge everyone else's opinion first.

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Re: Total War Attila
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2014, 04:51:53 pm »
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No ammount of DLC or expansions can save Rome 2 from being such a trainwreck it is.

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