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Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« on: October 26, 2014, 12:12:59 am »
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First off, let me note that I actually enjoy the patch despite the fact that my signature Blue Brigandine over Aketon has messed up textures now and my War Darts were unnecessarily nerfed.

There is only one thing that bugs me right now and although I repeatedly bitched about it under the patch thread, it seems that nobody gives a damn. So I feel that I have to turn this into a thread. All I want is to get some reassurance that it will be fixed.

Due to the new ranged+riding = -20% speed penalty formula, I can't enjoy merrily riding my donkey to backdoors and unvisited parts of siege maps. Just because I use War Darts (the ones you nerfed, but that's alright as I stated in the beginning), my donkey is now barely faster than an average player. Ffs, I was even left behind by some ultra agiwhore a few days ago.

Correct me if I am wrong. Donkeys were added purely for the purpose of giving characters without riding proficiency a means of moving faster especially on siege. They were never intended as cavalry mounts and it is impossible to use them for that purpose anyway (ranged or melee, doesn't matter). Why on earth was it necessary to apply that penalty to donkeys too? Do I absolutely have to give up on my War Darts just to properly ride Smart Ass, my loyal donkey?

I mean I can't believe I am so strongly QQ'ing over here for such a petty reason. I am not a frequent forum whiner, but look at what you guys reduced me to now.

Somebody just tell me that this will be fixed and you will leave my donkey alone. At least give me a response about it.

Unfuck donkeys 2014!
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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2014, 12:19:25 am »
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my donkey legs dont even move on some maps and the champ donkeys are worthless now. I cant even sell this fucking thing for my 3 looms not counting my arrows and bow. Total fucked me

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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 12:27:16 am »
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Fix this guys godamn donkey please
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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 12:37:25 am »
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Donkey is -10% and War Darts is getting buffed.

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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 12:43:59 am »
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10% or 20%. All I know is this San:

Just because I use War Darts, my donkey is now barely faster than an average player. Ffs, I was even left behind by some ultra agiwhore a few days ago.

Correct me if I am wrong. Donkeys were added purely for the purpose of giving characters without riding proficiency a means of moving faster especially on siege. They were never intended as cavalry mounts and it is impossible to use them for that purpose anyway (ranged or melee, doesn't matter). Why on earth was it necessary to apply that penalty to donkeys too? Do I absolutely have to give up on my War Darts just to properly ride Smart Ass, my loyal donkey?

You guys intended to limit horse ranged, not a poor hybrid thrower that only wants to ride a donkey to get to places. Just admit that this was totally unnecessary and fix it.

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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 01:42:55 am »
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Donkey would be faster than other horses if it was made 100%. If you have 0 riding, it's not that noticeable since a % decrease of a low number is less than the same % decrease of a high number. 7-9 riding is a given that it's not that slow, well for a Donkey anyways. +1 riding and you're at the same speed you were prepatch give or take a few km/h.

I just timed myself on NA2 (speed reduction doesn't work for duel servers) for a short distance, one wall to another. It took me 8 seconds with 0 riding and melee equipment and 9 seconds when I brought stones. Keep in mind that this is max speed, so acceleration is exactly the same. I don't think this difference is too noticeable. Somewhere that took you 30 seconds before will take around 32-33 (might shave off a fraction of a second since the acceleration is the same)

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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2014, 09:44:24 am »
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I do realize a huge difference. The same backdoor ride takes much less for a normal donkey rider and I feel like I am in a race against a thoroughbred horse. And I have already written and quoted how I can't even leave an ordinary walker behind while riding a donkey.

Nevermind though. Time and time again, it is in crpg's destiny to be the forefront for absurdities like no jump-throwing. This time around, it is the damn donkeys. I guess no unfucking will take place and I will have to continue to hate you people for what you have done. Because what you have just written comes down to a different version of the age-old joke about ranged and shields:

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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 10:25:08 am »
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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2014, 01:11:59 pm »
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All this talk of backdoor donkey fucking is giving me a HUGE multi.
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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014, 03:34:41 pm »
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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2014, 04:37:06 pm »
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Omfg, dis dude can couch peasants on donkeyback. My whole life was a lie. Why did I even create this thread? Wut is the meaning of life? Me thinks things...

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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2014, 04:40:22 pm »
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cock, can't you just press X to put your war darts into secondary mode, and ride with the full speed?

not sure if that works, but it's an idea
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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2014, 04:41:18 pm »
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Not sure Rico. But I tried dropping them and it doesn't work at all. Once you have mounted it as a thrower, you stay a thrower no matter what. So, I believe it won't do any good at all.

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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2014, 04:43:00 pm »
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It shouldn't. I tried to add some logic where you would regain 100% speed if you didn't have any ranged equipment, but couldn't get it done in time.

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Re: Unfuck post-patch donkeys please
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2014, 04:46:03 pm »
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The point is nobody deserves a speed penalty on a donkey just because they are ranged San. It is beyond easy to deal with a donkey rider. Is it really impossible to just spare the donkeys instead of only allowing full speed as long as you don't have any ranged stuff on you?