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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2014, 08:35:30 pm »
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Consent, as defined by the laws in question, can not be given by a minor so it is automatically a statutory violation.


What? Of course consent can be given by a minor, rape isn't the same as sex with a minor who grants his permission. When you fuck with 15 yo with her approval it's not a rape, though it's still a crime.

PS. Well, at least that's how it works in EU, dunno about america.

Depends.  In Bible thumper states the teacher would never find work teaching again, but in states like NY for example she'd likely get off with a slap on the wrist.

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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2014, 04:18:03 am »
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Consent, as defined by the laws in question, can not be given by a minor so it is automatically a statutory violation.


What? Of course consent can be given by a minor, rape isn't the same as sex with a minor who grants his permission. When you fuck with 15 yo with her approval it's not a rape, though it's still a crime.

PS. Well, at least that's how it works in EU, dunno about america.


A legally minor person (with no adulthood rights) can not consent to do something that is forbidden to them. 16 years old, 12 years old, 6 years old... they are all technically minor: if a 11yo girl tells you she wanted the dick, even if she really wanted it, its a rape still. We simply do not give minor the legal capacity to judge the situation themselves, as they are not considered mature/adult enough.

Then of course there is rape, and rape, but in both cases you face criminal charges, only the circumstances changes and can work toward a lesser or bigger punishment.


I'm sure different countries have different laws about sex and age, I know for example than in my country you can have sex with a minor if the age difference isnt above a few years (for example a 20yo male can have a 17yo girlfriend, and thats pretty normal when you think about it).
Also in some countries the age where you can have sex with anyone you want isnt the age where you reach adulthood and are legally responsible for your actions/can vote/can drink alcohool/etc... there is many grey areas around what laws permits you to do and starting at what age.
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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2014, 10:02:17 am »
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A legally minor person (with no adulthood rights) can not consent to do something that is forbidden to them. 16 years old, 12 years old, 6 years old... they are all technically minor: if a 11yo girl tells you she wanted the dick, even if she really wanted it, its a rape still.

Nope, it's not a rape, it's a crime ofc, but not a rape :P Rape and pedophilia are different criminal offences.

Whoever induces the other person by force, an illegal threat, or deceit to sexual intercourse shall be subject to the penalty of the deprivation of liberty for a term of between 2 years and 12 years. - that's the rape.

Whoever has a sexual intercourse with a minor under the age of 15 shall be subject to the penalty of the deprivation of liberty for a term of between 2 years and 12 years. - and that's the pedophilia.

Also in some countries the age where you can have sex with anyone you want isnt the age where you reach adulthood and are legally responsible for your actions/can vote/can drink alcohool/etc

Here you have the minimum age of a person with whom another person is legally permitted to engage in sexual activity in different countries.
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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2014, 05:15:46 pm »
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Well maybe not rape, lets say the criminal offence adapts to each situation, to this you're right  :P


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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2014, 05:22:06 pm »
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W-wait there are laws against having sex with 12 yr olds?

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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2014, 05:38:24 pm »
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W-wait there are laws against having sex with 12 yr olds?

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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2014, 08:46:55 pm »
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I'm studying law enforcement so I'll give you the low down on the situation from a legal standpoint:

Ss.948.025(1)(e). engaging in repeated acts of sexual assault of the same child A class C felony if at least 3 of the violations were violations of Ss. 948.02. (1) or (2).

Ss. 948.02 (2). sexual assault of a child second degree sexual assault. Whoever has sexual contact or sexual intercorse with who has not attained the age of 16(17 in NY) is guilty of a class C felony.

Since the person is under 16(17 in NY) he did not have the ability to give consent and she is guilty of both charges.

I couldn't find info in my statute book on the teacher-student relationship law but the inter webs says that any sexual intercorse (possably relationships depending on cercumstances and states)  is punishable with up to 20 years in prison and $10,000 fine.


On a side note, statutory rape and sexual assault are just different words that mean the same thing.
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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2014, 08:56:38 pm »
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Well, prison time might be over the top but Imo there are good reason for keeping relations between teachers and students on a professional level.

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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2014, 09:02:52 pm »
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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2014, 10:42:47 pm »
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Maybe she is addicted to alcohol and will now take care about it and go to revocation..
Would be just an dejavu from Southpark.. Just though about it, could be still possible for her..

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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #55 on: October 26, 2014, 07:30:07 am »
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I'm studying law enforcement so I'll give you the low down on the situation from a legal standpoint:

Ss.948.025(1)(e). engaging in repeated acts of sexual assault of the same child A class C felony if at least 3 of the violations were violations of Ss. 948.02. (1) or (2).

Ss. 948.02 (2). sexual assault of a child second degree sexual assault. Whoever has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with who has not attained the age of 16(17 in NY) is guilty of a class C felony.

Since the person is under 16(17 in NY) he did not have the ability to give consent and she is guilty of both charges.

I couldn't find info in my statute book on the teacher-student relationship law but the inter webs says that any sexual intercourse (possibly relationships depending on circumstances and states)  is punishable with up to 20 years in prison and $10,000 fine.


On a side note, statutory rape and sexual assault are just different words that mean the same thing.

Why is the legal age 17 in NY as opposed to 16 in other states?  I'm interested in the reasoning behind it.

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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2014, 03:01:19 pm »
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One of the advantages of a federalist state I guess  :mrgreen:  see more here for example.


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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2014, 10:55:21 pm »
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One of the advantages of a federalist state I guess  :mrgreen:  see more here for example.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America

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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2014, 03:22:23 pm »
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Why is the legal age 17 in NY as opposed to 16 in other states?  I'm interested in the reasoning behind it.

in the united states there are federal laws that are the same between every state. most of those laws are the more major ones like terrorism laws or laws on murder. for the laws that people might have different views upon, such as when people should have the right to have sex, it is the decision of the state and what the local population thinks. for extra small things, such as speed limits or park hours, the extra small county or city governments get to decide assuming that the speed limits are on county or city roads and not highways or freeways.

there are also different definitions of laws, such as you can not have sexual intercourse until you are 18 but you can have oral intercourse when you are 16.
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Re: Where the fuck were these teachers when i was a teenager?
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2014, 09:20:54 pm »
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Merriam-webster:
: a situation in which two people, groups, etc., are treated very differently from each other in a way that is unfair to one of them

I bolded the important part so you wouldn't miss it. Retard.

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