A very confusing patch

[Veniathan]

Who else thinks this patch is a real confusion? I mean, it's not necessearly bad or anything. It brought some new cool things like better respeccing, new items, new content in general. But some things really confuse me

What is with the archer nerf? What is archery supposed to be now? I don't even bother putting up shield against them, they do almost no damage. Where as crossbows are portable siege cannons with massive damage.

Now that the average person is level 35/36 what the hell do we do? The average person has now really strong stats, and I usually die in 2 hits from just about everything. Basically speaking it has become much easier to die and to create OP builds with 16 power strike.

No offense but I don't see how this will really revive the game. I'm a new player, I don't even have a year of cRPG play time. I think most guys know this, and I still think that it's too easy to get loompoints. I have 3 in total by the way, and I have only 3 looms. All level 1. But now I think it will become superduper easy.

But other than the stuff above, I am liking everything else. Just strange patch ..

[Dolphin]

Who else thinks this patch is a real confusion? I mean, it's not necessearly bad or anything. It brought some new cool things like better respeccing, new items, new content in general. But some things really confuse me

Nope i think its just you.
-New xp reuquied to levels.
-New equipment added.
-A nerf to cav and archers, especially HA.

What is with the archer nerf? What is archery supposed to be now? I don't even bother putting up shield against them, they do almost no damage. Where as crossbows are portable siege cannons with massive damage.

I am not sure what you have been hit by but foot archers still hurt me like any other weapon swing.

Now that the average person is level 35/36 what the hell do we do? The average person has now really strong stats, and I usually die in 2 hits from just about everything. Basically speaking it has become much easier to die and to create OP builds with 16 power strike.

People where extreme high levels before now the gap have been cut down between the extreme grinder and normal person i never reached level 34 i couldnt take it longer then 33.

Right now i am level 31 and that is the level i usually was before the patch so i feel no difference except i got there pretty fast which is nice.

No offense but I don't see how this will really revive the game. I'm a new player, I don't even have a year of cRPG play time. I think most guys know this, and I still think that it's too easy to get loompoints. I have 3 in total by the way, and I have only 3 looms. All level 1. But now I think it will become superduper easy.

Its the same grind as before to get looms not a single xp more or less. (8 mill to be able to retire same as before.)

I am gen 19 and got 8 +3 looms and 6 LP

But other than the stuff above, I am liking everything else. Just strange patch ..

Not strange extremly needed patch...

I didnt like that there where people with builds 5 levels higher then mine now it will only be 2-3 levels higher which is extremly good imo.

[darmaster]

now if the problem is about damage dealt by str builds I disagree, before there wasn't much difference between someone with 6 ps and a great bardiche and someone with 8 ps; the same couldn't be said about agi builds. as for the average level I agree, I laways thought it should be between 30 - 33, but I still haven't seen how it is yet so I shouldn't express meself. the great job was done with the leas exp required to reach valid levels, it would have been even better if lvls under 25 were deleted imo

[Blackbow]

yeah true i agree it's a bit confusing but just give some time to dev team to balance everything
they did a huge work on this patch and it's like starting on new base so everything have to be redone and balanced
it's just my personnal opinion

they tried to give more advantage to str builds but look like agiwhore master race for life !!

honestly about archery it's a rape
they nerfed bows damage
they nerfed amount of arrows and some arrows damage
and for the 100th time they changed and increased quivers weight
when i play my archer i feel like getting rape by a donkey =p

i'm ok with damage nerf but i'm rly mad at this arrows amount nerf
i play 2h archer with 1 quiver and 10 arrows for bodkins is clearly not enough

and now str archers build are back with strange build like 27/21 or 24/24 ....
and they are more accurate than oriented agi build ... where is the logic ?
no more way to be a bit hybrid and still able to defend in melee

i do more kills with my sword and his 76 wpf 6ps than my 170 archery 6pd

and about ha ok it was needed but they clearly killed the class
better to remove it than do this ...


GIMME BACK MY AMMOUNT OF ARROWS KEEP OTHER NERF !!!

[elvis1325]

Now that the average person is level 35/36 what the hell do we do? The average person has now really strong stats, and I usually die in 2 hits from just about everything. Basically speaking it has become much easier to die and to create OP builds with 16 power strike.

I agree with this, people have more wpf and IF now. Same for me, before I was level 32 with 42/3 and 2 IF and 13PS, Now I am 42/3 with 14 PS and 7 IF. It is completely insane, I know strength builds got a nerf but If I wear basic mail armor, I can tank way more hits than I should be able to.

[Molly]

Not a big fan of archery, just for starters!

I never had an issue with archery damage tbh, it seemed okay to me before patch. Rather agi oriented build and I normally died with 3 arrows. Seemed fair.
I hated their pin point accuracy. Certain archer achieved head shots constantly, they called it skill, I call it too easy to do. That seemed especially true for long distances.
And I always said that there are simply too many archers around, way too popular for the good of the whole player base. The direct result was an empty EU1.

One of my suggestions was to reduce the ammo, reducing the overall projectile spam cuz an archer has to aim instead of spamming arrows randomly, focusing 1 target instead of switching target every 2nd arrow in the hopes to hit someone already low on health and get the kill steal.

Right now, I wanna play more to see how it goes right now. If all the tweaks together reduce the overall amount of archers on the server: goal achieved, thank you so much.

Tho I do see the problem for the "cool" archers around like BB who actually had a proper hybrid and played less selfish to their class and more "fun for everyone". It would indeed be sad/bad if such disappears.

[Veniathan]

Also what's with the broken models glowing white and where the actual weapon is longer than the texture? And why the screenshots are missing from the shop?

[Chosen1]

I can't decide if I love this patch or hate it.

I like how they got rid of level and loom crutching, but now everyone is such high level with much better stats, the game became harder for new players anyway.

Not only that, but even as a melee player, I can tell that they nerfed ranged way too much. Now anyone with a cookie-cutter str 2h build or agi polearm can dominate the server without any use of tactics whatsoever...
what little teamplay there was in this game is now essentially gone, because the servers are full of one-man armies.

[Kaido]

It took 12 bodkin arrows to kill a tincan and i had 8PD.A +3 bag of bodkin arrows has 14 arrows.

nuff said

[Veniathan]

It took 12 bodkin arrows to kill a tincan and i had 8PD.A +3 bag of bodkin arrows has 14 arrows.

nuff said

This is what I am talking about.

[Molly]

If it was real plate armor then I would say "working as intended" and "find a proper target for your arrows".

[Kaido]

If it was real plate armor then I would say "working as intended" and "find a proper target for your arrows".

The sad thing is that it wasn't a proper tincan.It was a heavy tier armor and the guy looked like he wasn't 40/0 build.If that was the case you would probably had to balista him 10 times and put 2 bags of bodkins in his face to to anything on him lol..

If they rly want to make the archers completely useless might as well remove them or smtng.I did a test on eu3 and with 8PD/12PD its completly the same.The guy took 6 arrows both cases.Figure that out..

[Dolphin]

If it was real plate armor then I would say "working as intended" and "find a proper target for your arrows".

If we just say that the tincan is a tincan, and think hmmm.

I would say it with bodkin arrows and alot of PD.

5-10 arrows would be ok but i think 12 is over the edge, it is bodkin after all i would say tatar arrows should just bounce off.

[Kaido]

If we just say that the tincan is a tincan, and think hmmm.

I would say it with bodkin arrows and alot of PD.

5-10 arrows would be ok but i think 12 is over the edge, it is bodkin after all i would say tatar arrows should just bounce off.

Come with me on EU3 to show you that it will take your 9 arrows to kill my test char and you go with +3 long bow/bodkins and 12PD 

[Corsair831]

i absolutely love the patch, it's a good breath of life into an otherwise dieing game!