Britain threatens Internet 'trolls' with two years in jail

[Umbra]

Really Leshma, 4chan?  You arent anonymus on 4chan btw, your info is forwarded to the authorities at their request. The point is the various acts (CISPA, SOPA, PIPA) that are trying to pass congress which the mayority of sensible people rightfully fights. Its alarming that the goverment is trying to get more tools for censorship and more access to any and all information about people. And once it becomes standard in the US it becomes standard in the world. I cant believe we are even having this discussion. And its people like you with the:

You can protest all you like but your freedom to take a dump on the internet will be slowly taken away from you, just like it was in public places.

statements that are bending over and willingly letting them fuck you right in the ass. Well, excuse me if im not having it. Given the history of the balkans you would think that you would detest censorship and the curbing of anonimity and free speech....

[Leshma]

Don't want to sound like Tovi, but I've yet to see successful protest that was organized by people who actually care about the issues they are protesting against. And not some 3rd party folks who have their own agenda (money). The more we progress on technological plan, it becomes harder to fight the power. I'll gladly go and protest if there is a way how to win. Problem is I can't see how.

Snowden is good example, man fucked beyond repair. Stuck in Russia which isn't known for protecting liberties of their own citizens and working against his own government which would hang him in a second. And things he's saying, we're pretty much fucked beyond repair as well.

New generation will grow up, they'll take Facebook for granted and won't grown upon what they and government does to them. It will become something we like to call "normal".

If I can't beat them, I'll join them.\

/Cypher out

[Oberyn]

Without us being so apart and mostly anon, this feud would end just like a bar fight. Only reason why you're able to shit on people's faces without serious repercussions is because internet anonymity provides you that. No wonder you clutch so hard to it, not willing to let it go.

If similar law go through in France, you can bet I'll act like a good little snitch and provide your government with a proof of you breaking that law. Would even travel to France as a witness in your case.

First of all, my country isn't heading towards some dystopian Brave New World shithole like UK.
Secondly, I would gladly say the same things to your face. In fact I believe I offered to meet up if you ever passed by Paris, and you implied that I was "threatening" you.
Thirdly, if you think anything I said to you on the net is in any way illegal, wow. You are truly a complete fucking idiot. Sorry Leshma, pointing out you're a broken autistic fuck who can't logic wouldn't be illegal even then.
I've never done anything on the net that would be considered illegal (except tbf pirate some movies and games). Tell me, how much stuff have you pirated Leshma? How many shows/movies have you streamed? Have you ever watched any porn at all? Step away from your narcissistic self-centered whiny victim narrative for one second and try to think about the consequences of net anonimity dying.

[Leshma]

Thirdly, if you think anything I said to you on the net is in any way illegal, wow.

Of course not. But your online attitude, is very poisonous. Not saying you're the only one. Can name at least another 10 members of this community with similar attitude.

[Oberyn]

Of course not. But your online attitude, is very poisonous. Not saying you're the only one. Can name at least another 10 members of this community with similar attitude.

Oh so now it's "of course not"? What happened with

If similar law go through in France, you can bet I'll act like a good little snitch and provide your government with a proof of you breaking that law. Would even travel to France as a witness in your case.

Your schizophrenia kicking in again?

From my perspective your evidence-free, feelings-based form of arguing is poisonous to rational discourse. You may be bland and unaggressive (and literally insane), but your idiocy poisons logic. I could think of another 10 members of this community with a similar attitude. I wouldn't try to use government force to silence them though, because I'm not a fucking authoritarian coward shill. Who the fuck made you judge and jury of what is "appropriate" speech?

[Oberyn]

This is just the mass-hysteria that the UK public loves

Yes, yes it is. UK loves itself some fabricated moral panics. THINK OF THE CHULDREENS/and women. Condescending as fuck to consider women as frail and defenseless as if they were children, but it's par for the course for moral outrages. A man was threatened with death on the net? Business as usual. A woman was threatened with death on the net? EVERYTHING IS MISOGYNY. A child was threatened with death on the net? THINK OF THE CHULDREENS. (rerailed like a boss)

[Leshma]

Oh so now it's "of course not"? What happened with

Currently it isn't illegal. If it becomes illegal... then previous post applies.

From my perspective your evidence-free, feelings-based form of arguing is poisonous to rational discourse.

You're damn right about that. Me, you, Xant, Panos, that lombard guy, BlindGuy, Bjord, Umbra fellow... we're all poision to this or any community. Reason why are we here is because we're allowed, not because we're awesome. There is plenty communities on world wide web which would instaban such "colorful" characters on sight.

Question for you, do you do this anywhere else on the internet?

Edit2: Take Gnjus for example. Have you noticed how moderate he has become? That is because he suffered like 20 mutes in 3 months before dropping a ball little bit.

[Oberyn]

Point out anything I've said about or to you that would be considered illegal under that ridiculous law. Go ahead, I can wait. Calling you a schizophrenic idiot doesn't apply, sorry. Being "poisonous" according to the gospel of Saint Leshma the Transgender wouldn't be illegal, even though that's obviously your primary interest.

There's plenty of places on the net that are nothing but censoring "safe space" hugboxes where people go to have their own views spouted back at them and validated. Is that what you like, Leshma? Confrontation and argumentation bad, circlerjerking good?

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Currently it isn't illegal. If it becomes illegal... then previous post applies.

You're damn right about that. Me, you, Xant, Panos, that lombard guy, BlindGuy, Bjord, Umbra fellow... we're all poision to this or any community. Reason why are we here is because we're allowed, not because we're awesome. There is plenty communities on world wide web which would instaban such "colorful" characters on sight.

Question for you, do you do this anywhere else on the internet?

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[Leshma]

Point out anything I've said about or to you that would be considered illegal under that ridiculous law. Go ahead, I can wait. Calling you a schizophrenic idiot doesn't apply, sorry. Being "poisonous" according to the gospel of Saint Leshma the Transgender wouldn't be illegal, even though that's obviously your primary interest.

I'm not sure do you recall, but I've started calling you back not because you were twat to me but because you started doing the same do other people. While it was only me, I ignored you for the most part. And whole thing started as I explained numerous times before, because I called you chocolate chip cookie. Which you proved to be true and that is probably the reason why you got so worked up.

Edit: After all, only people I ever had a fight in this community revealed themselves as being nationalist pigs. For some reason Mercenaries clan likes those kind of people.

[Oberyn]

Ah there we go, I was wondering when we'd get to the part where you rewrite the past so you appear as selfless heroic martyr. Suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous insults to defend others from my evil poison, so brave. I'm sure you can pinpoint exactly when this was, of course, and link to it? Since it's very obviously something that happened and not a justification you just cobbled this very moment.

Nationalist = chocolate chip cookie. Well shit, I guess the world is just full to the brim with chocolate chip cookies. chocolate chip cookies everywhere!

[Kafein]

you enforce it like this

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/29/peter-nunn-jailed-abusive-tweets-mp-stella-creasy
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/twitter-trolls-isabella-sorley-and-john-nimmo-jailed-for-abusing-feminist-campaigner-caroline-criadoperez-9083829.html


If you think you can issue death threats and rape threats just cuz its online doesn't count well think again ^^


The police would become involved if you bombarded someone with letters threatening to rape and kill them or phoned them multiple times screaming insults and threats why would the internet be any different? Bottom line is if you have the bollocks to say it in rl dont say it online and if your not spending most of your time issuing death and rape threats then you probably wont be effected by this law 




yeah im sure if someone was sending your mum msgs that he is coming to rape or kill her you would tell your mum to not be so sensitive 

There's zero need for new legislation. Stalking and harassing online is well within the reach of current laws.

[Oberyn]

There's zero need for new legislation. Stalking and harassing online is well within the reach of current laws.

That's because it has nothing to do with that, that's merely the emotional appeal du jour.

[Kafein]

To be honest the constant attempts by the general populace, the government and the mainstream media at making the online world like the real world are cringeworthy at best. As a computer scientist, it's downright appaling. As a sociologist, it's downright fascinating.

I also find it mildly worrisome, as all things considered anonymity is one of the pillars of democracy.

[lombardsoup]

To be honest the constant attempts by the general populace, the government and the mainstream media at making the online world like the real world are cringeworthy at best. As a computer scientist, it's downright appaling. As a sociologist, it's downright fascinating.

I also find it mildly worrisome, as all things considered anonymity is one of the pillars of democracy.

Agreed.  The saddest part here is that advocates of anti trolling/anti bullying legislation actually believe they're helping others by denying reality.  Its on the level of a mental disorder and should be studied.