Good bye C-rpg from your Miserable_Olb_Bastard

[San]

What is the difference between playing well with +3 weapons/armor and playing well because you are slightly stronger than most?

Extra 2 PS is like 4-6 extra damage, twice the effect of a +3 weapon. 2 athletics allows you to wear an extra 10 weight of armor and move at the same speed. +10 weight of armor exceeds the value of quite a few looms all at once.

The 6 level difference of 30 to 36 has been reduced to a 3 level difference of 35 to 38 which still gives a sizable advantage. It's a far better solution than decreasing veterans' levels, which would've been a true "fuck you." In fact, all veterans should have received at least 1-2 extra levels with new potential builds available to them, along with the forever-requested ability to easily respec. Training lessons that end in a few days are going for pennies right now.

[Morris]

you're no different than bicep

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[gallonigher]

Extra 2 PS is like 4-6 extra damage, twice the effect of a +3 weapon. 2 athletics allows you to wear an extra 10 weight of armor and move at the same speed. +10 weight of armor exceeds the value of quite a few looms all at once.

The 6 level difference of 30 to 36 has been reduced to a 3 level difference of 35 to 38 which still gives a sizable advantage. It's a far better solution than decreasing veterans' levels, which would've been a true "fuck you." In fact, all veterans should have received at least 1-2 extra levels with new potential builds available to them, along with the forever-requested ability to easily respec. Training lessons that end in a few days are going for pennies right now.

Thanks for that well-formulated explanation.  I can see how being a higher level actually overshadows MW equipment in a lot of ways and I admit that significantly cheaper respecs are a god-send; something the mod definitely needed.  But in a lot of ways I'm still convinced the patch was overkill and I don't like it but I'm starting to accept it

[gallonigher]

*double post* shit pc

[Dionysus]

High-level builds were a cancer that was killing this game for a long time now. Most multiplayer RPGs have level caps to prevent veteran players from completely dominating the general playerbase. +3 items are at least reasonably easy to get for the average player, but playing long enough to reach a 34/35/36 build puts new players (not even noobs, maybe just folks coming from Native) at an extreme disadvantage simply because they have not played as long.

[gallonigher]

What exactly have they done to modify the leaderboards to accommodate the new ranking system?

[Zisa]

Thanks for that well-formulated explanation.  I can see how being a higher level actually overshadows MW equipment in a lot of ways and I admit that significantly cheaper respecs are a god-send; something the mod definitely needed.  But in a lot of ways I'm still convinced the patch was overkill and I don't like it but I'm starting to accept it

I wasn't shitting you about lvl42.. after the shock wears off you will probably end up having more fun .. I did.

[Keshian]

The 6 level difference of 30 to 36 has been reduced to a 3 level difference of 35 to 38 which still gives a sizable advantage. It's a far better solution than decreasing veterans' levels, which would've been a true "fuck you."

Just slight correction 30-36 is now closer to 35-37 38 is equivalent to the xp it took to get to level 37 before.  The range is almost too tight, because there is no levelling, no goal to achieve with levels.  Without a decent strategus either there are just not a lot of reasons to keep playing much with how boring and repetitive the maps on NA1 are with everyone min-maxing agility.  If you really like doing no damage as archer or if you want to join the min-max bandwagon and go minimum 21 agility for the s-key win, then I guess battle server won't get boring after 5-10 minutes. 

But in all honesty they removed even more functional classes, reduced variety and added some OP new items that everybody uses until they get hotfixed.  I thought we were going to get a legitimate change to the xp/gold system to something more enjoyable, a real limitation on agility builds (like 75% of current reduced speed when backpedaling), dynamic new map rotation, etc.  - a true revival.  Other than the leveling system, not really many significant changes.

[Bjord]

Just slight correction 30-36 is now closer to 35-37 38 is equivalent to the xp it took to get to level 37 before.  The range is almost too tight, because there is no levelling, no goal to achieve with levels.  Without a decent strategus either there are just not a lot of reasons to keep playing much with how boring and repetitive the maps on NA1 are with everyone min-maxing agility.  If you really like doing no damage as archer or if you want to join the min-max bandwagon and go minimum 21 agility for the s-key win, then I guess battle server won't get boring after 5-10 minutes. 

But in all honesty they removed even more functional classes, reduced variety and added some OP new items that everybody uses until they get hotfixed.  I thought we were going to get a legitimate change to the xp/gold system to something more enjoyable, a real limitation on agility builds (like 75% of current reduced speed when backpedaling), dynamic new map rotation, etc.  - a true revival.  Other than the leveling system, not really many significant changes.

Kinngrimm would have been level 39 if he hadn't retired, still a pretty big advantage.

You as well!