Arrows Complaint Wine thread

[AwesomeHail]

Had to make a new reply it kept deleting what I was posting.

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1/3 hp after being shot up

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1/3 hp after taking 42 arrows.

The nomad bow is no longer viable, arrows are also no longer viable.

ever thought of archery as a primary support class? If you stun targets they stagger and are stunned for a little while, this makes them vulnerable to melee or even another archer. Archery is not supposed to be op, and hell, i still get 1hit from body shots while wearing 40 body armor (0 if, with 18/24)
If the nerf for archery was rewinded the only thing we would have are kiting and 2shotting archers. back when most people were about 31-36 archery was good for that level, and now with everyone being atleast lvl 35 or higher it was not going to be balanced as archery is a highly scaling class.

[Camaris]

Thanks for the responses. I think I underestimated the amount of increase in armor. We had to be careful for any possible extreme builds popping up that may dominate the server. I believe that the concept of increased weight won't change since it promotes unhealthy play, even though it punishes those who don't really intend to play that way. I do think that ammo levels should be at a comfortable level, though, but below a point where it's exploited (I have a problem with 3 stacks personally).

Overall, I'm seeing:
-Damage back: likely to be a steady increase vs. all at once if it passes.
-Ammo back: likely if damage potential for current builds are very lackluster.

From the perspective of an archer, what would be good ways to make 10-11ath kiting builds less attractive? Archers can only be slowed down so much before it hurts the average build too much and make only the extreme builds viable. I'm a fan of arrows being 2 slot with more arrows per quiver, but it has a number of downsides for hybrids/weapon choice. There's still a lot that's wait and see, but I think a small bump may be a decent first step as archers adapt to balanced builds and strength leans becoming more viable.

I just tried an archer and what totally bugs me that its supershit without looms. I could do well melee with that char without any loom but archery looms are so fucking important? Why?
In addition its very hard to kill anyone with bow and normal arrows (thats how i started). There is no better way to feel useless then being noob archer.

Why do normal arrows have to be soooo bad?

[Templar_Steevee]

i still get 1hit from body shots while wearing 40 body armor (0 if, with 18/24)

maybe you are getting shot by x-bow, because i didn't oneshot anyone in body except total agi na armor bundle of stickss

[blackrose_Baron_Geoff]

archery was balanced? is funny joke yes? you funny man.

I'm all for these archery changes, make them less useful as pure archer, try to force melee on them.

Hell, steve is fine with it

Bump!       Fun fact  5 bags of rocks weigh less then 1 quiver of bodkins
                        5 bags  =  60 rocks          1 quiver = 10 arrows

[BlindGuy]

Bump!       Fun fact  5 bags of rocks weigh less then 1 quiver of bodkins
                        5 bags  =  60 rocks          1 quiver = 10 arrows

If my old friendgits didnt run, there wouldnt be  need for weighted arrows.

[Templar_Steevee]

If my old friendgits didnt run, there wouldnt be  need for weighted arrows.

If my old friend have a possibility to be a bigger my old friend, he will use this possibility in a way you can't even imagine and become ultra my old friend ^^

Give +2 or 3 arrows more per quiver and all will be "fine" 

[Little Lord Lollipop]

If "my old friendgits" didn't chase me, there would be no need for running.

[lombardsoup]

If "my old friendgits" didn't chase me, there would be no need for running.

Cap archer ath so you can't kite and are easier to bumpslash

[BlindGuy]

Cap archer ath so you can't kite and are easier to bumpslash

That's just mean though. I prefer a solution I have been working on, try to follow this as the numbers can get complicated:

If a player puts points into Powerdraw, any WPF into archery, or any WPF into crossbow, when they hit save on website they have their account closed, their cd key banned, and their IP blocked automatically. This way we dont punish anyone with punitive gameplay, and everyone that matters has a better time all round.

[lombardsoup]

That's just mean though. I prefer a solution I have been working on, try to follow this as the numbers can get complicated:

If a player puts points into Powerdraw, any WPF into archery, or any WPF into crossbow, when they hit save on website they have their account closed, their cd key banned, and their IP blocked automatically. This way we dont punish anyone with punitive gameplay, and everyone that matters has a better time all round.

You're far too kind to ranged filth.

[BlindGuy]

You're far too kind to ranged filth.

I know, I know, but I'm a kind and considerate man.

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

Archers don't need more ammo.

Pick them up off the floor.

[BlindGuy]

Archers don't need more ammo.

Pick them up off the floor.

Instead, can we pick the archer up off the floor? And then slam them into other archers? Cause I would respec to pure STR no weapon build RIGHT NOW if it gave me the ability to pick up little cunts and dash them into other cunts.

[Templar_Steevee]

Archers don't need more ammo.

Pick them up off the floor.

For non loomed arrows there are not enought of them. For MW it could be fine , but still some ppl can run really fast and still survive 4 body shots. Example from today: Saxon survived 4 body shots from me(9 PD), If melee will have same dmg with 9 ps with most powerfull weapon accesible for them i thing there would be an ocean of tears and encyklopedia of QQ because of that
If archers will have 2 or 3 more arrows per quiver, nothing spacial will change, we still gona have less of missiles than before path.

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

Saxon has 50 strength though Steevee.

I watched that and I thought it was ideal. Had you not missed that last arrow you'd have killed him.