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What function does weight play in dmg calc for weapons???
« on: October 02, 2014, 04:35:36 am »
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Persian battle axe is the heaviest none maul/great lance weapon in the game.

My question is what does all that extra heft actually do? I know that it helps stun other weapons but I find that given the slowness of the axe itself that weapon stun doesn't really do anything to shut down spammers or open up the overly cautious.

So what in the hell is it's purpose?
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Re: What function does weight play in dmg calc for weapons???
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2014, 07:46:27 am »
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Re: What function does weight play in dmg calc for weapons???
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2014, 08:42:32 am »
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Well that makes sense.
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Re: What function does weight play in dmg calc for weapons???
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2014, 09:08:19 am »
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I think you're undervaluing weapon stun, but yeah, many weapons are too heavy (particularly many swords and other quick weapons) to make use of the stun as effectively. Maces and the slow axes should be able to use their weight as both a disadvantage with movement and an advantage tactically with stun.

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Re: What function does weight play in dmg calc for weapons???
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2014, 08:52:45 am »
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I think you're undervaluing weapon stun, but yeah, many weapons are too heavy (particularly many swords and other quick weapons) to make use of the stun as effectively. Maces and the slow axes should be able to use their weight as both a disadvantage with movement and an advantage tactically with stun.

You see that's more or less how I thought it should work out but in practice the big heavy axes etc just don't really effect the lighter swords because the speed deference is so large that stun doesn't really come into it at all unless it's group combat and really at that point it's less about stun and far more about the mob working as a unit.

Maybe they should jack the weight up on some of the fairly slow axes and blunt weapons???
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Re: What function does weight play in dmg calc for weapons???
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2014, 12:50:25 pm »
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You can stun the enemy weapon much more often when you hold your swings a little, if that helps :P
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Re: What function does weight play in dmg calc for weapons???
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2014, 05:27:24 pm »
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You see that's more or less how I thought it should work out but in practice the big heavy axes etc just don't really effect the lighter swords because the speed deference is so large that stun doesn't really come into it at all unless it's group combat and really at that point it's less about stun and far more about the mob working as a unit.

Maybe they should jack the weight up on some of the fairly slow axes and blunt weapons???

I made a thread talking about that a few weeks ago. Hopefully something comes out of it.

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Re: What function does weight play in dmg calc for weapons???
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2014, 07:09:03 pm »
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I made a thread talking about that a few weeks ago. Hopefully something comes out of it.

It'd be great to see what all is actually being looked at/considered. I wonder if it's possible to make that forum read-only to the general audience.

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Re: What function does weight play in dmg calc for weapons???
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2014, 11:03:27 pm »
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It'd be great to see what all is actually being looked at/considered. I wonder if it's possible to make that forum read-only to the general audience.
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Re: What function does weight play in dmg calc for weapons???
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2014, 02:45:42 am »
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I made threads that affect many items, so it's a slow process to make sure people are satisfied enough with the changes to vote favorably.


I like transparency, but I'm not sure how helpful being able to see the discussions would be. It's not much different than the suggestions/game balance forum with a poll attached other than posts being more long-winded on average.