1h Morningstar type weapon ?

[Soldier_of_God]

It's been suggested before.

http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/add-weapon-mourningstar/msg831636/#msg831636

http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/1h-morningstar/msg822152/#msg822152

There are models, and its fairly easy to add. There is nothing like it in the game right now, and...
we could even just change the normal morning star into a 1h/2h weapon like the langes messer, that is truly 1 and 2 handed so that one handers like myself can use it effectively in 1h combat.

does anyone else still feel the same way?

[MURDERTRON]

Steel pick.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

Steel pick.

Spiked club.

Mace, flanged mace etc etc etc etc etc

Millions of options.

[Soldier_of_God]

well sure, but someone worked on making a model, and the morningstar handles pretty differently from all those, comparatively speaking. the 2h morningstar is a slow, short, hard hitting weapon, and so should the 1h version; essentially it would be like the steel pick with balls. But that's ok, lets just forget the work that people have done, game is fine just the way it is. after all, a steel pick or a flanged mace is exactly the same thing, right?

NO.

[Huscarlton_Banks]

Making the existing Morningstar a 2h with a 1h secondary mode could work.

Same for any other 2h that can currently be used with a shield, as long as it doesn't already have a secondary mode. (Mace, Goedendag, Katana)

[matt2507]

Making the existing Morningstar a 2h with a 1h secondary mode could work.

Same for any other 2h than can currently be used with a shield, as long as it doesn't already have a secondary mode. (Mace, Goedendag, Katana, bs, hbs and longsword)

[Soldier_of_God]

Making the existing Morningstar a 2h with a 1h secondary mode could work.

Same for any other 2h that can currently be used with a shield, as long as it doesn't already have a secondary mode. (Mace, Goedendag, Katana)

well heres the problem with that, the secondary mode is bastard mode. why not have it like the langes messer? Id be happy if the morningstar had 1h like that.

[Huscarlton_Banks]

The Morningstar doesn't have a secondary mode.

Being a bastard weapon is different from having a secondary mode.

The Langes Messer behavior is what giving it a secondary mode means, it's just that you would spawn with it in 2h mode instead of 1h mode initially.

[Phew]

I'd rather Jarold's model be added, with the stats he suggested. It would basically be a military pick that trades 1p and 2 speed for bonus vs. shields, which seems balanced. The problem with the 2h morningstar is that it's too long to be balanced for 1h use, so it would have to be abysmally slow and/or weak (like it is now in 1h mode).

I wouldn't use either, since the fastest way to break a shield is always going to be an axe, and I only use my axe as a sidearm for fighting other shielders (a short weapon is a death sentence against all these agi polearmers that are everywhere now). But variety is always good.

[Rico]

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found a good 3d model, need someone to make the texture

[Johammeth]

Please no more weapons with both shield-breaking and swinging pierce. 

[San]

I tested 1h morningstar alt mode on a test server and it worked a little *too well.

[Soldier_of_God]

I tested 1h morningstar alt mode on a test server and it worked a little *too well.

how do you mean? do you mean bastard mode for the normal morningstar?

[San]

Not exactly bastard sword mode, just 1h alt mode.

[Soldier_of_God]

I thought it might be a little OP. and so... probably will need a shorter one handed version to make it fair.