Is Melee a Class in cRPG?

[Grumbs]

Is Melee a class or is it rangeless/cavless Melee?

Time to give some incentives to play melee as an actual class rather than as castrated ranged/cav

[Torben]

Is Melee a class or is it rangeless/cavless Melee?

Time to give some incentives to play melee as an actual class rather than as castrated ranged/cav

back when ranged couldnt melee there was qq about them running not fighting.  now that they can fight there is qqing about them not running but fighting?

[Penitent]

There will always be qq.  Based on my exhaustive observations of CRPG over the years, qq is the essence....of everything.

There is no need to qq, but then again there is no need to let qq vex you.  QQ just is.

[Kafein]

back when ranged couldnt melee there was qq about them running not fighting.  now that they can fight there is qqing about them not running but fighting?

The argument is that fighting is still a choice, because running is a viable option even though it should not, and defending oneself in melee is too easy. Most of the ranged players who choose not to run are good enough players to best whoever is pursuing them in melee with a ranged build, or at least survive for enough time to get help.

[Algarn]

The argument is that fighting is still a choice, because running is a viable option even though it should not, and defending oneself in melee is too easy. Most of the ranged players who choose not to run are good enough players to best whoever is pursuing them in melee with a ranged build, or at least survive for enough time to get help.

Does it means a ranged player cannot get help by running to teammates ?

Also, yay, another "nerf ranged" thread. Can these forums ever have enough of these "nerf ranged" threads ?

I know I will get some nice hate there, but destroying archery/crossbows will just make the game become a cav fest. The only OP class here is HA,  and besides this class, you can catch and kill the average ranged player in one or two hits. Only crossbowmen have the power to get a lot of wpf in melee ( and even take a shield to higher levels).

[NJ_Legion_Icedtea]

Because melee is to most people still the most fun class to play.

As for the rage at ranged and cav, apart from Eldar (who I believe to be high level?) I could honestly not give you any more names of ranged who will consistently top the score board.

As for cav, being constrained mostly to battle puts them out on a limb in my eyes

EDIT: Sorry Algarn!

[Algarn]

Because melee is to most people still the most fun class to play.

As for the rage at ranged and cav, apart from Eldar (who I believe to be high level?) I could honestly not give you any more names of ranged who will consistently top the score board.

Steevee, Nebun, Shokoshugi, Austriano, ... And all these people are screwed 80% of time when they are caught into melee.  Sure, short swords are viable weapons, but are they really OP ? Do you top a server with 40 wpf in 1H and 6 PS ?

[Kafein]

Does it means a ranged player cannot get help by running to teammates ?

It means ranged should not have invulnerability to melee. We had to fight for months to get ladder cancer patched out, it's essentially the same thing.

Also, yay, another "nerf ranged" thread. Can these forums ever have enough of these "nerf ranged" threads ?

And you keep on making these retarded posts devoid of any actual argument whenever a "nerf ranged" thread comes up.

I know I will get some nice hate there, but destroying archery/crossbows will just make the game become a cav fest. The only OP class here is HA,  and besides this class, you can catch and kill the average ranged player in one or two hits.

Except if he's running towards his teammates, duh.

By the way I personally would love to see all ranged replaced by melee cav. I'd just get a spear and murder them.

[darmaster]

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[Grumbs]

back when ranged couldnt melee there was qq about them running not fighting.  now that they can fight there is qqing about them not running but fighting?

Nope they kite as much as they can still, and got -6 weight reduction recently too. They only use melee when they are forced to be a melee role

Also look at player numbers and see this is not a viable melee game. Who wants to play a melee game when it is dominated by left clicking ranged, even ranged on horseback with unlimited kiting?

[Algarn]

It means ranged should not have invulnerability to melee. We had to fight for months to get ladder cancer patched out, it's essentially the same thing.

And you keep on making these retarded posts devoid of any actual argument whenever a "nerf ranged" thread comes up.

Except if he's running towards his teammates, duh.

By the way I personally would love to see all ranged replaced by melee cav. I'd just get a spear and murder them.

Ranged are actually my prey on my melee character, just saying. They are shit when they actually have to fight.

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My retarded argument comes from the fact I played archer for years, and get a 2:1 k/d on website, and made a triple hybrid character 1,5 months ago and regularly get better scores, and more kills, since my k/d is 2.2/1. As a ranged player, you have limited ammo, considerably less wpf than a dedicated footman soldier, and less armor too.

[Penitent]

Wait, are people taking this thread seriously?

[NejStark]

Nerf everyone who isnt the same class as me, and is on the other team, imo.

[Krex]

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[AwesomeHail]

Steevee, Nebun, Shokoshugi, Austriano, ... And all these people are screwed 80% of time when they are caught into melee.  Sure, short swords are viable weapons, but are they really OP ? Do you top a server with 40 wpf in 1H and 6 PS ?

god I've seen you rock that 40 wpf and 6 ps much with that little SAS

on my lvl 32 xbow alt, whom i didnt know would get to lvl 32, is 15/24 with 6 shield and 5 ps. with +3 crossbow and steel bolts plus my +3 spathion it is not too hard to hit the top 3 of the scoreboard as long as i survive long enough. I when I want to reload though, HA's keep shooting at me, and i cant run anywhere safe

most of the HA's in EU 1 tank 4 to 5 of my +3 crossbow and +3 steel bolt hits(rider takes max 3, but horse 3 to 5), but can easily 2hit me, with 45 armor and 2 if.

dis.